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    Need advice with 2nd cycle

    1st cycle ever was taken last year

    32 years old coming Feb.
    208lbs.
    BF: 20%
    I did EQ and Test E 500mg a week for 24 weeks.
    No PCT during or after

    I know, inexperienced, stupid, dumb and should have researched better.
    I have been off everything for 4 months now

    I just had bloodwork done from the doctor so he is going to check all my levels and recommend a program for me.

    But because I know what my goals are, I want to go into his office and have a recommendation of what my own program should be incase he prescribes me something weak.

    Can you guys help make a recommendation assuming all my levels are fine and safe?

    I'll share the results after I get them.
    But assuming i didn't do any harm to my body, I am trying to cut up quickly, develop muscle, not so much mass.

    Trying to avoid water retention since it was so bad first cycle.

    I have been working out 3 years.
    I am confused between the different products out there.

    1 person tells me to just take growth, another tells me to take Sust and Winstrol, another tells me to take Sust and EQ.

    Like I said, I just want something to help cut me up and be safe.
    First off I will be taking the diet part more seriously cause in my eyes that's 80%, the other stuff I will call it 20% but I know it's more.

    I was thinking 12 weeks (of course I will see if the doctor is onboard with this by looking at my test levels)

    Sust and EQ 500mg, maybe adding Winny toward the end?
    PCT - Nolv and Clomid

    Should I be considering Growth at all?
    Just want your advice on what to take or not to take.

    Thanks

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    did you run a pct at all last cycle? i think you did not before anyone answers this you need results from blood work.

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    stick to diet and cardio for a while and lower the bf% you need to learn how to be in control of your gains and loses before you cycle this will give you a better ability to make the most of a cycle.

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    Agree, diet w/ cardiovascular training. In the meantime, read the steroid guide sticky and get familiar with what a first cycle should look like, along with remedies, PCT protocols, ect. In fact just read the entire thread. http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-Steroid-Guide

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    Quote Originally Posted by cro View Post
    did you run a pct at all last cycle? i think you did not before anyone answers this you need results from blood work.
    Cro, When I see the doctor this week what blood results should I ask him for? Test levels? I just want to be sure I get the right information thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzY PLO View Post
    Cro, When I see the doctor this week what blood results should I ask him for? Test levels? I just want to be sure I get the right information thanks
    yes your test levels need to be known.. to see if you recovered properly from your last cycle... most standard bloodworks only do cholesterol and stuff so make sure you specifically request test levels to be checked

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    Yes, he told me he will examine all my test levels and make a recommendation on a safe program for me.
    I'll post results when I get them. Should be anyday.

    Thanks

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    I see the doctor Saturday but got the results early. Looks like I will be put on a statin for my cholestrol since it's very high and this is genetic in my family. Test levels are low. What do you think he will say about that or is there anything he can do?

    Normal Test levels are 280-800
    Mine is 71 (low)

    Insulin growth factor is 101. Normal range is 64-334

    cholestrol 315 high
    triglyceride 205 high
    hdl 24 low
    vldl 41 high
    ldl 250 high

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