Advise on bulk!!

[newyboy]

Hey guys, Just after some advise on an upcoming bulk iam planning.

First of all here is some stats

Age - 24
height - 6"1
Weight - 102kg
BF - around 12%
Training history - About 3 years full on
Prev Cycles - 3 (test Prop, Test Enth, EQ, Dbol)

My last Cycle was a 16 week test prop Cut with awesome resulets, went from 112 kgs down to 102kg and managed to get really lean, and loving the look, just after putting on a bit more size while trying to retain abs... My goal is to be around 110-112 and around 12%bf.

Iam just tossing up between my two options which are :

12 week cycle - Dbol 50mg first four weeks, Test-e 600mg / week, Tren-e 600mg a week.

Or

8 week Cycle - Test Prop 600mg a week, Tren Ace 600mg a week

Just wondering which cycle use guys would recomend to put on some serious size, while trying to stay lean. I know the Prop is a leaner option with less bloat, but i have found that the enth puts on mass alot easier, so im really not sure.

Any advise would be awesome

[baseline_9]

Test P 75mg ED
Dbol 20 mg ED

I just ran the above cycle for 8 weeks and it was great

Are you sure ur ready for a 19nor

NPP or Tren Ace would go well with the above cycle at 50mg ED

Most would recomend the nandrolone


If you do decide that ur going to run Tren just be carefull and do lots of research into sides etc...

[lil_herc81]

the dbol is going to add a lot of size quickly, however a lot of water weight also, make sure to take that into consideration. I myself love test and tren it is a great combo taking dbol with these is going to cause more serious sides so be prepared for that as well. If I had to chose the two options listed above I would personally opt for #2 600mg of prop is a lot also maybe look into a lower dosage, I recommend the same for tren since I dont see it on your resume.

[baseline_9]

run 0.5mg of arimedex eod and bloat will be kept down

[newyboy]

Hey guys, thanks soooo much for all the input, have spent all night and morning really looking into this.. Found some great info on the forum and have come up with a bit of a revised cycle.. Let me know what use think!

12 week bulk

Week 1-12 - Test-E 600mg (shot monday / Thursday)
Week 1-8 - Tren Ace 350mg a week (shot 50mg ED)
Week 1-4 - Dbol 50mg / Day
Week 1-18 - Adex .25 ED
Week 14-18 - Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

Iam not sure if i should also add HCG too this cycle to stop shutdown, As after my last cycle 16 week test prop 600mg a week, i had some erection problems 2 months after coming off!! Which is all sorted now but it really worries me.
Also iam really worried about hairloss on cycle, what do use guys recomend too help prevent this?? Ive read finiside works well but can hinder gains??
thanks guys

[lil_herc81]

That cycle looks much better! PCT looks a little light to me I would add clomid also. I cannot advise on the hair loss. Check AR-R they have stuff there for that too