2nd cycle help. MANY questions!! answers, help, tips needed ASAP

[england123]

Ok so here goes, well this is the first time i have used a forum like this but i believe this is the only way i am going to get good, exact helpful information regarding my matter.

So my stats before i begin

25 male
6 ft 3
13 stone
been training for couple of years but had to have a rest due to injury

i had a cycle about a year ago from now - this cycle was bought from thailand
it consisted of:

Nandro 250 (nandrolone decanote)
Test-Comp 250 (testosterone compound)
Danabol DS - 10mg (blue love heart dianabol)

week 1-2 d bol at 10mg a day
week 2-4 d bol at 20 mg a day
then i stoped the d bol at week 4

I ran the nandro & test comp
week 2-8 1ml of each every week in the same needle so 2ml a week

These items i bought are very good and i know alot of people who have used them for years. I had some really good results off them and i put alot of size and muscle on during the time i was using them.

Before i started using these steriods i had a slight problem with my nipples - they were puffy and little bit of excess fat was around them so i first wanted to get on a cycle to try and get rid of my problem. I had a good strong heavy schedule with a great diet the whole time i was on this cycle. lots of protein shakes and plenty cardio work (lots of soccer/football) etc and i thought this might get rid of my puffy nipples/excess fat. I would say there slightly like man boobs but not too bad. When i finished the 8 weeks of using this cycle i didnt to a PCT (dont ask me why) i guess i was just going off my friends advice etc etc i know this is stupid of me but i was willing to try anything just for the fact i NEEDED to try and cure this problem i had. i thought i could maybe just work my ass off on upper chest and it would sort its self out. After i was on my course i didnt do a PCT and just stopped using steriods completely cos i injured my back and cudnt train on it at all - i have been out of training for bout 5 months and i would say only lately ( the last month or so ) i have been back into the gym

So ive ordered exactly the same cycle as i did the last time and i plan to run a PCT this time around and make sure everything is in order and my diet is perfect again and i stop going out at weekends etc as im going away on holiday and i need to try get in some shape! its obvious when i look at old pictures i have lost alot of weight. I mean its been a while now since i last used steriods or even trained hard like i use to.

so ive just had this sent over to me for personal use

Nandro 250 15 ml (nandrolone decanote)
Test-Comp 250 15ml (testosterone compound)
Danabol DS - 500 x 10mg tablets (blue love heart dianabol)

so what im planning to do is to start a new cycle

i plan on running =

dbol at 20mg week 1-5
nandro at 1ml every week 2-12
test at 1ml every week 2-10

(nandro and test in same inj once a week)

then on week 12 start my PCT with clomid and maybe nolvadex

do you think this is a good cycle for my second time around?
the amounts correct?
weeks correct?

ive done alot of research and i am led to believe this will be an ok cycle?



so my next problem - i dont know what to do as i still have a problem with my breast tissues, moobs, puffy nipples etc
i went to the doctors and told them about it and they told me if wasnt GYNO which i was happy about. there not sore, no problems, not itchy they just feel a bit fatty and i dont know how to get rid of them - do you think if i run this cycle and focus alot on top chest it will help or do you think it will make it worse? (I WILL POST SOME PICS SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT I MEAN) i am not in good shape at all at the minute but want to start this cycle ASAP to try and get back in shape for my holidays & too make me feel better about my self

i was thinking on maybe running letro or nolva 2 weeks before i start my cycle and have them on hand during my cycle so if the fatty, puffed up nipples come back i would have it on hand?
do you think this would clear my problem up? also i live in the UK and i dont know where i can buy some Nolva or letro from? any ideas where i could get these items online? would be a great help
i was thinking on running these for a few weeks and hope it would clear my basically 'moobs' up then i could start my cycle and work on my chest and get it into good shape


im sorry if im rambling on its just ive been meaning to make a thread for ages and its got to the point now where i have no choice but to try get some answers and some help bout my situation. i just dont know whats best and if i should run some anti-estrogens before i start my cycle or use them during or wait till PCT

i will add some photos of my problem and you can see what you think

THANKS ALOT OF YOU HAVE READ ALL MY RAMBLING ON - I APPRECIATE ANY FEEDBACK OR ANSWERS GREATLY!!

IM ALL OVER THE PLACE AS THERES SO MUCH TO TAKE IN ON THE INTERNET AND I DONT KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO BE BEST FOR MY SITUATION

[england123]

Ok so here goes, well this is the first time i have used a forum like this but i believe this is the only way i am going to get good, exact helpful information regarding my matter.

So my stats before i begin

25 male
6 ft 3
13 stone
been training for couple of years but had to have a rest due to injury

i had a cycle about a year ago from now - this cycle was bought from thailand
it consisted of:

Nandro 250 (nandrolone decanote)
Test-Comp 250 (testosterone compound)
Danabol DS - 10mg (blue love heart dianabol)

week 1-2 d bol at 10mg a day
week 2-4 d bol at 20 mg a day
then i stoped the d bol at week 4

I ran the nandro & test comp
week 2-8 1ml of each every week in the same needle so 2ml a week

These items i bought are very good and i know alot of people who have used them for years. I had some really good results off them and i put alot of size and muscle on during the time i was using them.

Before i started using these steriods i had a slight problem with my nipples - they were puffy and little bit of excess fat was around them so i first wanted to get on a cycle to try and get rid of my problem. I had a good strong heavy schedule with a great diet the whole time i was on this cycle. lots of protein shakes and plenty cardio work (lots of soccer/football) etc and i thought this might get rid of my puffy nipples/excess fat. I would say there slightly like man boobs but not too bad. When i finished the 8 weeks of using this cycle i didnt to a PCT (dont ask me why) i guess i was just going off my friends advice etc etc i know this is stupid of me but i was willing to try anything just for the fact i NEEDED to try and cure this problem i had. i thought i could maybe just work my ass off on upper chest and it would sort its self out. After i was on my course i didnt do a PCT and just stopped using steriods completely cos i injured my back and cudnt train on it at all - i have been out of training for bout 5 months and i would say only lately ( the last month or so ) i have been back into the gym

So ive ordered exactly the same cycle as i did the last time and i plan to run a PCT this time around and make sure everything is in order and my diet is perfect again and i stop going out at weekends etc as im going away on holiday and i need to try get in some shape! its obvious when i look at old pictures i have lost alot of weight. I mean its been a while now since i last used steriods or even trained hard like i use to.

so ive just had this sent over to me for personal use

Nandro 250 15 ml (nandrolone decanote)
Test-Comp 250 15ml (testosterone compound)
Danabol DS - 500 x 10mg tablets (blue love heart dianabol)

so what im planning to do is to start a new cycle

i plan on running =

dbol at 20mg week 1-5
nandro at 1ml every week 2-12
test at 1ml every week 2-10

(nandro and test in same inj once a week)

then on week 12 start my PCT with clomid and maybe nolvadex

do you think this is a good cycle for my second time around?
the amounts correct?
weeks correct?

ive done alot of research and i am led to believe this will be an ok cycle?



so my next problem - i dont know what to do as i still have a problem with my breast tissues, moobs, puffy nipples etc
i went to the doctors and told them about it and they told me if wasnt GYNO which i was happy about. there not sore, no problems, not itchy they just feel a bit fatty and i dont know how to get rid of them - do you think if i run this cycle and focus alot on top chest it will help or do you think it will make it worse? (I WILL POST SOME PICS SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT I MEAN) i am not in good shape at all at the minute but want to start this cycle ASAP to try and get back in shape for my holidays & too make me feel better about my self

i was thinking on maybe running letro or nolva 2 weeks before i start my cycle and have them on hand during my cycle so if the fatty, puffed up nipples come back i would have it on hand?
do you think this would clear my problem up? also i live in the UK and i dont know where i can buy some Nolva or letro from? any ideas where i could get these items online? would be a great help
i was thinking on running these for a few weeks and hope it would clear my basically 'moobs' up then i could start my cycle and work on my chest and get it into good shape


im sorry if im rambling on its just ive been meaning to make a thread for ages and its got to the point now where i have no choice but to try get some answers and some help bout my situation. i just dont know whats best and if i should run some anti-estrogens before i start my cycle or use them during or wait till PCT

i will add some photos of my problem and you can see what you think

THANKS ALOT OF YOU HAVE READ ALL MY RAMBLING ON - I APPRECIATE ANY FEEDBACK OR ANSWERS GREATLY!!

IM ALL OVER THE PLACE AS THERES SO MUCH TO TAKE IN ON THE INTERNET AND I DONT KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO BE BEST FOR MY SITUATION

[england123]

first of all sorry for making 3 thread

my internet was jamming and not working



OK HERE ARE PHOTOS OF WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT IN MY THREAD

[carp123]

ill start

dbol at 20mg week 1-5
nandro at 1ml every week 2-12
test at 1ml every week 2-10

(nandro and test in same inj once a week)

then on week 12 start my PCT with clomid and maybe nolvadex

do you think this is a good cycle for my second time around?
the amounts correct?
weeks correct?

the cycle is a poor one and these are the reasons imo

your running deca 2 weeks longer than test ,it should be the other way around

your starting pct a day after your last deca shot? thats not right at all ,you need to wait for the steroid esters to clear your system before you start your pct and with your cycle plan your not doing this at all...

[england123]

why wont it let me upload my photos ?

[england123]

hi all sorry bout my AMATEUR ways

here are links to my post bout my problems - see what you think after reading my post

AGAIN THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME, RESPONCES AND ADVICE ITS GREATLY APPRECIATED



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[carp123]

mate looking at your pics i have got to be harsh ,your nowere near ready for steroids yet ,your current shape shows your diet is way off and it looks like you havent been training right ,sorry for sounding like a bell end but its the truth ,please dont use steroids yet as you may end up in worse shape than your in now..

[Matt]

I would spend sometime working on your diet mate....

Go and post it it the diet forum for full critque, its pointless running aas without a solid diet...

[england123]

its ok i appreciate your honesty i know i need some more hard training first

[england123]

i have got a solid diet in place - the past couple of months ive been out partying non stop on all sorts - i have a big diet plan in place full of protein HIGH stuff

its more the puffy nipple issue im trying to get sorted out and whether to run letro before i run the cycle etc

[carp123]

letro can hold some harsh sides mate,can fuk your sex drive ,you can get estro rebound when you stop ,you really need to get steroids out you plan for now buddy .

[england123]

so you think just spent the next couple of months on a HIGH protein diet and hard sessions in the gym before i start?

[england123]

lay off all the partying and sessioning and drinking and etc and spend next 6-8 weeks hard sessions 3/4 times a week protein shakes and high protein foods?

[england123]

so what would you advise me to do then bud ?
what would you do if you were in my situation

i have these steriods here beside me now though . . .

[carp123]

so you think just spent the next couple of months on a HIGH protein diet and hard sessions in the gym before i start?

atleast a year if you want the best out of your cycle mate...

[carp123]

so what would you advise me to do then bud ?
what would you do if you were in my situation

i have these steriods here beside me now though . . .

steroids have a 4 or so year slelf life ,get your ass to the diet forum and you will get your answers there,steroids arnt the way forward in this case mate sorrry

[england123]

im going to leave it 2/3 months - hit the gym hard, get in good shape, sort my diet out then go on the cycle i mentioned before i dont really have much of a choice as im going away for over a year travelling - im just going to train hard for the next few months and sort my diet out

i was in good shape bout 9 months ago and i know i can get in good shape again........

i havnt really been given the answer im looking for but thanks alot for you help - very kind

[DIRTYMAX]

To answer your letro question. Letro is extremely stong at supressing estro. Def something you should be careful with, I have run it in the past only after i started seeing signs of puffy nipples and it literally went away within a week. I think most would agree that you would be better off running Nolva through out a cycle. I kind of look at letro as a last resort to reversal of gyno symptoms.

As for hitting the gym. I have ben training hard for over six years.. I went four years in the gym 5-6 days a wk along with a strict diet and plenty of cardio before I ever even considered stepping up my game with AAS. I would take the advice of many of the previous posts and put in your time and alter your diet/ party lifestyle before I cycled anything. Keep in my there is no quick fix, thats why is called bodybuilding.... takes TIME and EFFORT to build exactly what you are looking for. And it seems as though you are currently lacking in both.