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    Increasing Dosage in the Middle of Cycle?

    Increase Dosage?
    46 yrs. old.
    198 lbs.
    5' 7"
    Training for more than 20 years.
    Cycled many times during this time.

    This time, I am stacking:
    Test. Enan. 500mg./week (250mg. - twice/week)
    Deca 500mg./week (250mg. - twice/week)
    Primobolan 400mg./week (200mg. - twice/week)
    Equipois 400mg./week (200mg. - twice/week)
    12 week Cycle

    I have moved my Test. Enan up to 1,000mg./week in the past for two weeks
    in the middle of my cycle. Not sure if I saw something or not. I was thinking
    to make weeks 5 - 8 1,000mg./week of Test. this time.

    Do you all think that this is a good idea or am I just wasting my Test.?

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    Hell of a lot of AAS IMO. But I've only done 2 cycles. If anything on this cycle i would have increased the Primo, I have a friend on 800mg of primo and 400mg of test right now thats doing amazing. Have you ever ran test that high before?

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    In reading through Steroid .com's "Popular Steroids " on the left bottom side, they suggest to use 400mg./week for which I am. They advise as high as 600mg./week but since it is my first time using Primobolan , I was keeping it at 400mg. In the Test. Enan. area, he speaks about more is better with Test. But my question, is there that more of a difference? I have gone as high as 750mg./week of Test. Enan before for 2 weeks but I am not really sure if I saw a difference by increasing to that or not.

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    Ya you can jack it up a bit my cycle is
    1000mg Test E 500mg/twice a week
    1000mg deca 500mg twice a week
    800mg EQ 400 twice a week
    60mg Dbols ED for the first 9 weeks
    Winny 50mg ED for the last 9 weeks
    I have done cycles like this before and seen that if you front load it it will show more results but i have also loaded the end of a cycle u sill see a pretty big change but not as good as front loading. make sure u have a lot of anti estrogen on hand cuz my nipples killed lol but went back to norm after a week or so used arimedex 1mg to get rid of nipples lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oz82 View Post
    Ya you can jack it up a bit my cycle is
    1000mg Test E 500mg/twice a week
    1000mg deca 500mg twice a week
    800mg EQ 400 twice a week
    60mg Dbols ED for the first 9 weeks
    Winny 50mg ED for the last 9 weeks
    I have done cycles like this before and seen that if you front load it it will show more results but i have also loaded the end of a cycle u sill see a pretty big change but not as good as front loading. make sure u have a lot of anti estrogen on hand cuz my nipples killed lol but went back to norm after a week or so used arimedex 1mg to get rid of nipples lol
    And what type of difference do you suppose I would see between the 500mg./week of Test Enan and 1,000mg./week? Can't move up on my Deca and Primobolan since I only have enough to keep them at what they are for this cycle. I usually do about 50mg./day of Dbol but didn't use it this time.
    You speak of front loading but I don't think that it is good to just start huge, kind of a shock to the system possibly. That is why I am asking about the middle of the cycle.
    I am using Arimadex .25mg EOD along with 20mg. Nolvadex EOD. The Primobolan in it's own right also acts as a anti-estrogen to some degree.

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    What do some of the experienced think about me increasing the Test. Enan?

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    I agree i would of vut out some of the compounds. The amount of primo you are using is basically useless at those levels. Also 12 weeks is a ok stretch for eq i like to go 16 but id say atleast 600 a week. i would up the test and deca but ditch the primo and maybe the eq. if you stay with eq id do 600 mgs also run armosain eod

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    Quote Originally Posted by dharts View Post
    I agree i would of vut out some of the compounds. The amount of primo you are using is basically useless at those levels. Also 12 weeks is a ok stretch for eq i like to go 16 but id say atleast 600 a week. i would up the test and deca but ditch the primo and maybe the eq. if you stay with eq id do 600 mgs also run armosain eod
    When you say that using Primo at this level is basically useless, could you please explain. Do you mean that 400/week is not enough?

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    On Friday Night, I took 500mg. of Test. Enan and again on Monday Night. I have decided to up my Test. Enan from 500mg/week to 1,000mg./week. So now the question is should I continue this amount to the end of my 12 week cycle or should I only do this amount for 4 weeks (the middle of my cycle)?

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    How many weeks currently are you in to your cycle, because if your gains have halted increase dose would be suitable and that's saying your atleast 8 weeks in too

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    Quote Originally Posted by liftw8t View Post
    How many weeks currently are you in to your cycle, because if your gains have halted increase dose would be suitable and that's saying your atleast 8 weeks in too
    I am now in my 6th week.

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    wtf you recommending that he increase his dose on ANY of those drugs? That guys got enough testosterone to turbo charge an elephant. Look if you really are training right, dieting right, and at your dose still not seeing any real results, then unless your a pro bodybuilder or athlete, perhaps it time to stop trying to build more muscle? I see guys benching 500pounds+ who aren't pros or doing any kind of sport that requires it, they simply want to do it just to get bigger, and its REALLY unhealthy... Taking steroids the right way isn't dangerous, but taking that shit at the dose must be really bad for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhero d-bolman View Post
    wtf you recommending that he increase his dose on ANY of those drugs? That guys got enough testosterone to turbo charge an elephant. Look if you really are training right, dieting right, and at your dose still not seeing any real results, then unless your a pro bodybuilder or athlete, perhaps it time to stop trying to build more muscle? I see guys benching 500pounds+ who aren't pros or doing any kind of sport that requires it, they simply want to do it just to get bigger, and its REALLY unhealthy... Taking steroids the right way isn't dangerous, but taking that shit at the dose must be really bad for you.
    I am dieting correctly, training hard and regularly, I am gaining weight and size but the amount that I am gaining is equal to what I always gain when I do a cycle. At 46 years old, I have always gained about 10 pounds while on my cycle and a bit of size which piece by piece makes me a bit larger over the years. On my last two cycles, I did 750mg./week for 2 - 3 weeks in the middle of my cycle. I want a bit more in my gains than I normally get.

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    First off i think that if you arent noticing changes with the original cycle then you need to focus more on your training and diet.

    With that being said, incresing your test mid cycle is not worth it IMO. You may notice some difference but i think the unstable blood levels, due to raising and dropping doses, would just cause more negative sides

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noles12 View Post
    First off i think that if you arent noticing changes with the original cycle then you need to focus more on your training and diet.

    With that being said, incresing your test mid cycle is not worth it IMO. You may notice some difference but i think the unstable blood levels, due to raising and dropping doses, would just cause more negative sides
    My diet consists of high protein, low carbs during my cycle. For the first 6 weeks, MuscleTech Muscle Mass, Egg whites, Chicken, Fish, Tuna, sometimes lean beef, a lot of vegetables and salad. Dressing on salads is fresh lemon juice and a bit of Virgin Olive Oil. No Sodas, snacks, cookies, candies, cakes, etc. The only difference now, is I have switched from MuscleMass over to NitroTech starting this week to help with definition just a bit. I believe my diet is pretty solid. My training is pretty solid as well.
    I am not going up and down with the Test. Enan. I was thinking to increase it and leave it increased at 1,000mg./week. When you go to Steroid .com and on the bottom left where there there are Steroid descriptions, even he says 600mg./week or more is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Money View Post
    My diet consists of high protein, low carbs during my cycle. For the first 6 weeks, MuscleTech Muscle Mass, Egg whites, Chicken, Fish, Tuna, sometimes lean beef, a lot of vegetables and salad. Dressing on salads is fresh lemon juice and a bit of Virgin Olive Oil. No Sodas, snacks, cookies, candies, cakes, etc. The only difference now, is I have switched from MuscleMass over to NitroTech starting this week to help with definition just a bit. I believe my diet is pretty solid. My training is pretty solid as well.
    I am not going up and down with the Test. Enan. I was thinking to increase it and leave it increased at 1,000mg./week. When you go to Steroid.com and on the bottom left where there there are Steroid descriptions, even he says 600mg./week or more is better.
    Well with incresing the dose you will be running over 2 grams of compounds a week. I feel that with all of the compounds you are running, you should see significant gains off of 500 mg/week with the test. Truthfully if you are already 6 weeks in i would save it for another cycle. Then in the next cycle run it at the hhigher dose you want throughout the whole cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noles12 View Post
    Well with incresing the dose you will be running over 2 grams of compounds a week. I feel that with all of the compounds you are running, you should see significant gains off of 500 mg/week with the test. Truthfully if you are already 6 weeks in i would save it for another cycle. Then in the next cycle run it at the hhigher dose you want throughout the whole cycle.
    What if I were to run the Test. Enan for a total of 16 weeks on this cycle instead of 12? Also, if I were to save it for the next cycle which will be around June or July, How much per week would you run from the beginning at that time? I'm in Japan but from Florida. I see that you are from Florida. Where?

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    I think increasing you dose would be a bad idea. I know everyone sometimes want to increase the dose on cycle because they are getting results quick enough but it is something you have to resist doing even though it is so easy.

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    At your stats, no way.

    You need to look at the total amount of androgens, not just exo. Testosterone .

    Try increasing cals when hitting a brick wall, dont look for the easy route and up your dose(s).

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    yes i mean primo should be run at higher levels . results are minimal with that dose and all togather imo

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