When do I take adex?

**DKbuilder** · 01-11-2011, 06:49 PM

I am slightly confused as to when I am supposed to take Adex. Is it only when you see side-effects such as gyno, bloat or something else, or do you take it on cycle no matter what until PCT?

What do you guys suggest?

**DKbuilder** · 01-11-2011, 07:11 PM

bump

**DKbuilder** · 01-11-2011, 07:30 PM

another shameful bump

**DKbuilder** · 01-11-2011, 08:57 PM

bump

**Ruffiancino** · 01-11-2011, 09:31 PM

Haha.....you bumped this 3 times in two hours? Getting a bit impatient? Well since noone else wants to play, I'll try and help you out. If I remember right, you are gonna be running a Test E cycle, yes? Looking back at your posts, it looks like you got some good feedback earlier. Drop the Nolva during cycle, but I would still keep it on hand, which shouldn't be an issue since it looks like you are gonna be running it during PCT (good job). Nolvadex , during cycle, will keep the estrogen from binding with your breast receptors, which means you won't get nipple lumps but it won't lower estrogen levels. That's what the Adex will do. Anytime you have increased test levels, you will have increased estrogen levels. Whether or not those side effects "show up" varies from person to person. Some of those sides include, but aren't limited to, gyno, acne, bloat, etc......You can play the "what if" game, and wait and see if you experience any of the sides, and then try to backtrack, or you can just run it through the cycle and play it safe. Personally, I won't run a cycel without it anymore. It's cheap, and it doesn't take much. .25-.50mg EOD usually does the trick

**Userat204** · 01-12-2011, 12:15 AM

^^^^^^

I agree. I waited my first time and had some puffy nips to try to reverse. Some will say do not use it unless absolutely necessary but by then it can be difficult to combat. Seems to me that I never really get rid of they gyno. The lump gets so small its hard to find it, but has never completly left. So I start adex from the beginning. But it does vary from person to person. If u choose to wait just pay close attention to the possible sides. You need to find a balance for your body because to little estro can be just as bad as too much.

**bigpapabuff** · 01-12-2011, 03:16 AM

yea I would go with an ai like adex from the start, better safe than sorry. And ai may hinder your gains but better than having gyno imo. Another good ai to use is exemestane.

**cro** · 01-12-2011, 09:39 AM

stane is great

Originally Posted by bigpapabuff

yea I would go with an ai like adex from the start, better safe than sorry. And ai may hinder your gains but better than having gyno imo. Another good ai to use is exemestane.

**DKbuilder** · 01-12-2011, 02:10 PM

I guess I will only be using it whenever a see symptoms of bloat or itchy nipples. I will pay close attention to these things though so I make sure I make no rookie mistakes.

**Ruffiancino** · 01-12-2011, 02:25 PM

Just out of curiousity, what is stopping you from using it? I'm not asking to bust your balls, I'm sincerely curious. I know there are alot of people that don't use it, but they have been through cycles before and usually know if they are prone to gyno symptoms. It's not like a headache, and Tylenol. If you start experiencing symptoms, you can't just take a little AI and just expect it to go away. It will go away, but you have to stay on it at that point.

**DKbuilder** · 01-12-2011, 04:27 PM

I haven't started my cycle yet, and that's why I want to know if I should be on it all the time or only if I see symptoms, bro. I have nothing against using it from day one - I just need to figure out the smartest way to do it.

**Ruffiancino** · 01-12-2011, 05:09 PM

Rock on. Well if you do decide to run it through cycle, I'd run it starting two weeks in and run it at .25-.50mg EOD. If you decide to hold off and wait till symptoms come up, then you may need to adjust the dosage. If you start showing signs of gyno, you may need to use Nolva at first, and then run adex, or whatever AI you decide to go with, once the gyno symptoms subside. That's why I run it through cycle. It keeps your bloat down, keeps your estrogen levels in check, and keeps gyno away. Hope this helped, good luck

**nelly** · 01-12-2011, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by bigpapabuff

yea I would go with an ai like adex from the start, better safe than sorry. And ai may hinder your gains but better than having gyno imo. Another good ai to use is exemestane.

AI's hinder gains? if so by alot?

**mg0922** · 01-12-2011, 05:35 PM

Yes they do hinder gains. That'd the price you pay for being safe. You can take it from the very start and sacrifice lesser gains, or just do your cycle, keep it right next to you and if a problem arises you start taking it, and you don't stop until your cycles over. Because if something happenss like gyno symptoms you now know any cycle you do with test in it you are gyno prown.

See me personally had no bad side effects, so I never need it. Bloating doesn't bother me at all so I have no need for it. But everytime you TRY A NEW COMPOUND THAT YOUR BODY HAS NOT BEEN AQUIRED TOO, you have to have those items (AI's,) on hand.

Do what you think is best man.
Good luck

Mg

**nelly** · 01-12-2011, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by mg0922

Yes they do hinder gains. That'd the price you pay for being safe. You can take it from the very start and sacrifice lesser gains, or just do your cycle, keep it right next to you and if a problem arises you start taking it, and you don't stop until your cycles over. Because if something happenss like gyno symptoms you now know any cycle you do with test in it you are gyno prown.

See me personally had no bad side effects, so I never need it. Bloating doesn't bother me at all so I have no need for it. But everytime you TRY A NEW COMPOUND THAT YOUR BODY HAS NOT BEEN AQUIRED TOO, you have to have those items (AI's,) on hand.

Do what you think is best man.
Good luck

Mg

My thing is basically the acne kills me. I don't mind the bloating, and I have never had syptoms of gyno thank god.

**ScotchGuard02** · 01-12-2011, 06:16 PM

I just read a study on adex where the study used adex only to lower the estrogen level of the patient and was able to increase his Test by 70%. It also said that adax dose was up to 5mg/ed without significant side effects. A .25mg to .5mg dose seems small especially if taken for a few weeks.

**Ruffiancino** · 01-12-2011, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

I just read a study on adex where the study used adex only to lower the estrogen level of the patient and was able to increase his Test by 70%. It also said that adax dose was up to 5mg/ed without significant side effects. A .25mg to .5mg dose seems small especially if taken for a few weeks.

Was this an AAS related article? I'd like to read that if so, if you have the link you should post it. If it was a patient that had messed up estroen and test levels naturally, then that's a completely different story. The dosage I listed is correct for what the OP wanted to know

**mg0922** · 01-12-2011, 07:28 PM

They have alot of another medicines to help with acne!! My friend was very very prown to achne during cycling. Ask around for stuff to combat that problem. There definitely is another way to reduce acne.

**BIG NICE** · 01-12-2011, 08:00 PM

Curious to see how much potential it has to hinder gains. Would exemistane have similiar hindering effects? I am planning my first injectable cycle and I'm concerned with gyno as well, but still want to maximize gains in a safe way.

**DKbuilder** · 01-13-2011, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by Ruffiancino

Rock on. Well if you do decide to run it through cycle, I'd run it starting two weeks in and run it at .25-.50mg EOD. If you decide to hold off and wait till symptoms come up, then you may need to adjust the dosage. If you start showing signs of gyno, you may need to use Nolva at first, and then run adex, or whatever AI you decide to go with, once the gyno symptoms subside. That's why I run it through cycle. It keeps your bloat down, keeps your estrogen levels in check, and keeps gyno away. Hope this helped, good luck

This sounds good - but. Mixing adex and nolva together hasn't given me the best impression on these boards. Can you be more specific? If I notice some gyno sides I do nolva instead of adex and when they subside I run adex throughout the remainder of the cycle?

**Ruffiancino** · 01-13-2011, 10:38 PM

Sorry, I guess I sort of rambled in the previous post. If you were to take the AI through the cycle, you shouldn't see any gyno signs, therefore you wouldn't have a need for the Nolva. If you didn't run an AI, and one day you noticed a lump under your nipple, and then decided to jump on, then you may have to take nolva right away, as it can take Adex a week to stabilize in your blood. The nolva will stop any more estrogen from binding to your chest receptors, and the Adex will begin to lower the estrogen levels. At that point it should clear up, especially if you did it as the signs were early and just coming. Some may say you don't need the Nolva if you begin treatment as soon as you notice it coming on, but I think it's a good idea. Does that make sense?