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Im going to be starting my cycle soon, however thinking about it id really hate to lose my hair. It would be my first cycle, running anropen 275 (cycles posted up here somewhere) 2cc a week, so 550mg a week. Any danger to my hairline with this, i understand how it could affect the hair and things like that, what do you think? Any danger of loss to my hairline? Should i run a dht blocker? Oruse that nizerol shampoo? LOL i like my hair... this is why i ask..
haha thanks for time guys!!
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been reading about spiro 5%... yikes... talk about dropping the test levels...
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if you have the mark of the beast, that cycle will wake it
If you feel vulnerable to AGA even in the slightest, you'd be an imbecile not to take dutasteride on cycle (for most compounds). I've seen test cycles toast hairlines overnight my man. Winny and other DHT-like compounds pretty much guarantee hair loss to anyone vulnerable to mpb.
As for andropen/sust, the dutasteride should go a long way to defend from DHT. That said, it will still be hard on your hair. It just depends on your genes.
But who knows. I know one asshole who cycles 3 times a year and he has never lost a hair. I hate that frickin tool. Nice guy, though.
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well now.... thats alittle scary.... going to check into this dutasteride stuff right now... doesnt it also lower your test potentcy?
Def alittle freaked out... just talked to my pops, said hes the only one in his family who has hair... great...
When/IF hair starts dying, how do you know? it will start falling out? or? Just all of a sudden a inch of your hairline is gone? (this will actually be a serious consideation as to if i cycle or not....)
Last edited by Lynx331; 01-12-2011 at 07:59 PM.
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test potency? I don't see how.
It will stop 5a-reductase from turning into DHT, an androgen several times as powerful as test. If by that you mean you'll be losing the more powerful androgen, then yes that's right. The only sides you'll have on cycle are maybe a little more water retention and other estrogen-related probs. But, without an anti-estrogen, you'll have those issues anyway.
DHT dries you out, keeps the fat down, and adds strength. But, like I said, with all the other sh&t you got going on, you won't miss it. Now, dutasteride off cycle is something else.
What's your line up and stats, dude? History of balding?
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I'm 23 178 lbs. Balding... Well as my dad pointed out no one on his side has hair... It's going or all thingging... Which honestly freaks me out... Def not worth losing my hair at this age....
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23? Na bro, AAS and all that crap is not as rewarding as it seems. I haven't cycled in over a year and I don't think I ever will again. I love being in shape, but there's no point in taking on the burden of managing AAS. There are so many better things to worry about it life.
Plus women don't really give a sh*t about huge dudes. They just want to see some muscle and a ripped six pack. If you're too lazy to achieve that through dieting and training, then AAS def isn't going to help. I say forget it, man.
Another thing to remember is that, no matter what the proud baldies in this forum say, women love a man with great hair. I wouldn't jeopardize that in a vain quest for muscle no one cares about.
You're right. It's not worth it. Not to mention the fact that it you can ruin your life.
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as for dying/miniaturizing hair follicles, you may not know the damage until a month or two later
I remember a post on here where a guy did winny for 4 days and his hair fell out like that of a shedding dog. Usually, though, it will take more exposure to shut down the hair cycle and then a week or two to start falling out.
"Who wants to be Clark Kent, when you can be Superman."
Just shave it off. You will feel so much better.
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Lynx, there is no shame in being bald. I mean, a lot of us with hair shave our heads all the way because we like it. But if you're that concerned about your thinning hair, I recommend you going to Hair Club, getting a Hair Alternative Treatment (a hat) or well not doing steroids.Originally Posted by Lynx331
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haha. so many f***ed up dudes in this world because of Bosley, Hair Club, and other chain HT shops. There are very, very few good HT docs out there. Better off bald imo
on the bright side, if you do go bald anyway, why not juice like arnold? done right, you got nothing to lose
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I'm prone to MPB and have been using Finastride for a couple of years. Since using this, I noticed my hair loss was non-existent. While on my current cycle of Test & Deca, I started shedding for the first 3-4 weeks, but noticed it stopped somewhere in the 4-5 week period. I used Nioxn shampoo and conditioner along with the Finerstride.
I do not have enough cycles under my belt to say that this works every time. But I did notice that once I started using the conditioner, the shedding stopped.
BTW - There's an extremely prominent HT doctor in San Antonio Texas, been in the business for over 20 years, with the who's who list of clients from all over the world. He could drop you a new hairline and no one would be the wiser. You're spot on about the comment with Bosley, they have also had several of their doctors have their license revoked due to malpractice lawsuits. Some would argue that in that market (cosmetic surgery) malpractice suits would be relative due to customer expectation.
Just my 2 cents...
Last edited by Fevershock; 01-12-2011 at 11:24 PM.
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Well....... I think this just shot the horse....
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I'd like to know who that is. My hair is doing all right atm. No one would really notice a prob, but it's been going and going you know. Looking at my dad, "I have seen my death," as the famous quote goes. I'm gonna need a HT doc eventually. 'was thinking Raymond Konior in Chicago. His online before/after photos are amazing. It's like anything is possible w/ that guy.
but yeah, hair transplants are maybe the riskiest cosmetic procedure on the market in terms of results. oh, those donor scars....
Last edited by RapaciousShark; 01-13-2011 at 12:03 AM.
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If you're looking to tip the androgen:estrogen ratio in favor of androgens without plunging into roids or PHs, I suggest you grab some quality ATD. That should help give you an idea of how your body will react. Doesn't really compare, but I consider more of a positive thing than negative.
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What's that?? This wasthe last part of the cycle I needed to research, and I was willing to go through anything else.. But I really don't think I'm ready for hairloss... Just the thought makes me cringe. I was really looking forward to this but I don't know if it's worth it now... I mean sure I have the attitude that id never lose my hair.. But with my luck... It would all fall out... And since it doesn't show up until long after the damage is done.. I'd have no idea when to stop and try to reverse it... I like my hair....damnit...
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just shave it off.Im going to be starting my cycle soon, however thinking about it id really hate to lose my hair. It would be my first cycle, running anropen 275 (cycles posted up here somewhere) 2cc a week, so 550mg a week. Any danger to my hairline with this, i understand how it could affect the hair and things like that, what do you think? Any danger of loss to my hairline? Should i run a dht blocker? Oruse that nizerol shampoo? LOL i like my hair... this is why i ask..
haha thanks for time guys!!
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.... I have a large head... Looked crazy with it buzzed short.. Let alone shaved.... Idk.. Just doesn't seem worth it.. And since nothing can guarantee no hair loss.... I just think this has killed the dream.. Atleast for now...
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yep i played that game for years now im 38 and have my head buzzed .so who gives a si--.
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Once I started cycling the hair began to thin a little. Could be my age as well as the gear, but I shaved it down and love this new look.
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Well looks like gear is out for now... I def don't want to go bald just yet.... Thanks for all your info guys! I appreciate it
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its a crap shoot. what i think also happens is, your hair doesnt always fall out its just that the dht associated with the aas kinda kills the folicle so even as you shed like humans naturally do the hair is not growing back resulting in a thinning effect.
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not sure on that i thought ive read different. i ran it and had bloodwaork midway and my test was through the roof
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And then once that has happened, its over right? The folices that have died are dead right, no going back?
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mine went on its own im 38 and on 1st cycle now.
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I noticed a lot of hair thinning and some receding on my tren cycle, on test I have not suffered much at all. Also worth noting during PCT the Torem seemed to continue the problem ( when I stopped the tren a to let it clear a week before stopping the Test base, it seemed like I was just starting to get some oil in my scalp then when I started the Torem my scalp went right back to dry) This time on a 7 week prop cycle I have not seen any hair loss, maybe a little thinning and scalp dryness..and I am 3 days into PCT with Torem so it will be interesting to see if the Torem drys it out this time around.
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I wouldnt plan on anything great from a hair club or the best damn hair dr on the planet.... have you seen Garth Brooks? The guy is never not wearing his hat surely because of his balding head and if he cant buy hair no one can....
"Who wants to be Clark Kent, when you can be Superman."
Good point.
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If I could afford it I would def consider hair transplantation I'm not bald just thinning and I'm a vane sob
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actually there are some good ones these days, but they still haven't invented a calculator to add up all the dudes who got f***ed up in the 90's. Brooks might be one of them, hiding a donor scar or something maybe
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Really? The way he explained it to me it was fairly full proof. But I don't expect him to present some blood scene either. The scars don't look that bad, but then again it all depends on how much donor hair they need.
His name is Dr. Limmer (Limmer Hair Transplant Clinic). I agree, I look at my Dad and I'm not near ready to rock that look. I'm saving up for one myself....
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You know, if you guys ever watch the comedy called "The Office", if you look at the first season of Michael Scott's hair (played by Steve Carell) he certainly had some work done in the front. If you never saw the first season you would never know, same with Dwight Schrute (played by Rain Wilson) he was balding in the back and now in the most recent season you can't see anything.
Since I've been looking into it, it appears to be alot more common than I expected. But just like MBMETC said, you have to be a vain SOB and...well...I guess that's me! - lol
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Yeah these thing just happen. I have had to come to the realization that my hair is never going to be the same. But then i looked at pictures of my younger self and it doesnt really look all that different I think I am just stressing about it more for no reason. There are so many thing nowadays that can be done about this.
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I agree about the stressing for no reason as I do feel the same, but being single I have to hold on to as much hair as I can - lol. I would go bald, but I don't think I like that look on me. So guys pull it off fine, not me though
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