Cyp and Deca in TRT type usage

[Far from massive]

Hello all, I would post this in the TRT section but since it will be self prescribed and I have only heard it mentioned in this section I figgured this would be the best place to ask.

I have read recently about a lot of older body builders utilizing a combination of either Test E or C and Deca at low doses of say 250wk as a sort of self prescribed TRT program. Those who do so claim excellent retention of growth and relief from joint issues. I also have a friend who is recieving the same thing (deca and cyp) from a legal HRT clinic here in the states. I am curious if one will see deminishing results at these levels as the body adjusts to the exogenous hormones etc.

I am 55 and without insurance but with good access to powders and USP grade chems so the idea of bottling up 5 years worth of gear is very tempting. I have just finished my second cycle (7 wks of prop) and after PCT and time off for recovery am planning to have bloodwork done to see where I stand as far as hormone levels, then I will have to make a decision on whether to stop AAS altogether, try another cycle and recovery, or go ahead and start HRT with either Test Cyp or Test Cyp/Deca.

Anyway I would look forward to hearing any input on any long term problems I may have overlooked from long term use of Deca and paticularly the effectiveness of Cyp/Deca at these doses and what kind of gains/problems to expect from any who have been there or have heard about this from others.

Thanks to all who reply positive or negative,

FFM

[dec11]

im 35 and on self prescibed test at 250mg pw as i knew fine well my natural system was blown out. i find i can gain (slowly) on the 250mgs and hold on to everything nicely.

i recently had an 11wk lay off due to injury and although i lost tone and my diet was quite crappy, i managed to hold onto all my mass. so no, i dont think it deminishes with longevity.

i dont know about deca longterm but i, quite recently, did 200mg for 10wks to help with joints. cant say i noticed much help from it though tbh

incidently, my avatar pic was taken after just less than 2wks back in the gym afta tht lay off, so you can see that i held mass which i put down to the trt. if i'd of been off cycle theres no way i'd of held my weight like this, i always tended to lose muscle very quickly if im not training when i was natty.

[Far from massive]

What I meant by deminished effectiveness was like if you used 250mgs for the first year to get a certain effect would you need 300 a year or two later and then 350 a few after that. This is the sort of thing I was concerned about, I do not know if this happens at the low dosages used in TRT as quickly as it does in big ass doses used during cycles.

On the 250 wk that you are on now do you know what your test levels are?

PS thanks for the reply.

[dec11]

What I meant by deminished effectiveness was like if you used 250mgs for the first year to get a certain effect would you need 300 a year or two later and then 350 a few after that. This is the sort of thing I was concerned about, I do not know if this happens at the low dosages used in TRT as quickly as it does in big ass doses used during cycles.

On the 250 wk that you are on now do you know what your test levels are?

PS thanks for the reply.

havnt a clue but i do know im not depressed anymore and have libido and a desire to train again. im not recommending anyone just jump on like this btw, i do plan on getting this all assessed with my doctor in the near future. it was more sense self prescribe due to my circumstances at tht time.

ive been on just over a year now and no, i dont need to jump it up and thts not how trt works anyhow. you are always going to have a level of test in your system doin its job, with trt

[CMonkey]

I am on self-prescribed trt too, well actually cruise and blast. I am coming off a cycle that included Deca in it and I am considering running it low dose in my cruise. I am thinking 200mg Test E and 200mg Deca a week. Running the Deca has helped my joints and cleared up my tendonitis. If you have cheap and easy access to it, I think it would be worth it to at least give it a shot, I know it has helped me immensely.