cutting and bulking sametime?

**onehotpony_302** · 03-04-2003, 02:00 AM

whats up fellas? need some advice. originaly i was going to run
1-10sust 500mg
1-10deca 400mg
6-12fina 75eod
8-12winny
1-12 privron 30mg daily
clomid after..
..........................but now i was thinking about running the deca sust and weeks 1-4 30 mg of dbol and of course privron, and then separatly run fina, winny and something else?any ideas prop?and some clen ....oh and how long between the two cycles....6foot 190lb. 15%bf thanks boys

**redrumkev** · 03-04-2003, 04:53 AM

I think you are better off to seperate them myself. Sust/Deca /Dbol is a great bulking cycle.

Winny/Prop/Tren 50mg/50mg/75mg -ED
Can stack this with Clen and T3 - and try some lower cal lower carb diets. Can get cut and hold onto the muscle you gained in the bulking phase.

Rule of thumb - Time on = Time off. So a 10 week deca/sust - then give 10 weeks off and then run the winny/tren/prop later.

**painintheazz** · 03-04-2003, 06:35 AM

I would seperate them too, it is very hard to bulk and cut at the same time. I rather just put all my effort into one, I think you will get better results.

Pain

**abstrack** · 03-04-2003, 06:43 AM

MY .02 I would keep the winny in the bulking cycle run it 3 weeks paast your last shot or deca or sus whichever the start clomid day after last winny administration

**Magicz** · 03-04-2003, 08:00 AM

do winny last 4 weeks with dbol and sustanon deca then when done u do cutting cycle , its hard to cut and bulk at the same time because with bulking u need high cal with cutting u need low cal high protien.

**onehotpony_302** · 03-04-2003, 12:30 PM

so should i run the winny from weeks 8-12, and then get some more when i run the 2nd cycle

**redrumkev** · 03-06-2003, 03:45 AM

I would throw it in both cycles - I am a big fan of winny. Works good for for the progest reasons with deca . And well help you harden and keep gains while you are dieting at the end of your cutting cycle.