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    Is going back on early really that dangerous if you run HCG and PCT?

    Bros, I'm about 4 days removed from wrapping up my PCT. Unfortunately, I lost a lot of my strength gains due to a two week layoff I took during my PCT. This was my 1st cycle. I ran 10 weeks Test Prop and Var.

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    Weight 212 lbs
    bodyfat 14% (this is the catalyst for my wanting to go back on, I want under 10%!!)

    I just completed a month long PCT after my 1st ever cycle. I feel fine, libido is a little off, but it could just be my imagination after being on cycle and having libido through the roof. I ran HCG during weeks 5-10 (as prescribed by senior posters here) and did my month long PCT of clomid and nolva. I did not experience any noticeable shrinkage before my HCG use on cycle nor did I have any shrinkage at any other point either. My gear is actually coming from an above ground compounding pharmacy here in the US.

    The reason for HCG use is to keep natural test production alive during cycle, correct? Theoretically speaking, should not my testicles be producing test naturally even before I start PCT? Once I've finished PCT and given my body over a month to rest, should I not be able to go back on cycle without worrying about my nuts shutting down for the rest of my life?

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    I would never do it unless my blood work came back normal. Not worth the risk of the sides.

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    Hcg is used to stop testicular shrinkage, not to keep test production alive as you put it. Running a cycle will shut you down 100%....
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    Matt: it's HCG recommended to raise test levels(low dosage) I'm current in 250 ui/week (recomended by my trt doc) cycle for 8 weeks, so I'm in trouble?????
    and Stickyman wrote in other post that is in :Im currently using 3 x 1500iu shots a week. Im doing this for 6 weeks to try and raise my sperm and testosterone levels as both are very low - Not from a cycle.

    What's your advise?????
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    The answer could be yes if you decide to actually get blood work done and your test levels and everything else comes back normal. The whole thing with time on + pct = time off is a little bit a bro science so that we can be more on the cautious side of when to start again. Even if you do wait for the time on + pct to get back on again you may not be healed up from your previous cycle the only true way is blood work.

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    If your running test with it then no its not going to raise test levels, when doing trt its recommended to run hcg but purely for testicular atrophy..
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    I did blood work, my test was ok, (don't ask me the #, can't remember) my doctor say was kind of early to start Test, he say i could try HCG for 8 weeks at dosage 250 ui/week (kind of low), get some blood work again to see any improvement.

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    HCG does cause a release of natural test from the testes, but it isn't the same as natural production since it bypasses the Hypothalamus and Pituitary gland (which are normally responsible for producing the LH and FSH which signal the testes to work).

    So HCG reduces the risk of secondary hypogonadism (since your testes never cease to function), but primary (LH and FSH release at the brain) is still a concern.
    So no, HCG does not eliminate the need for waiting a few months between cycles for your hormone levels to normalize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 38jumper38 View Post
    I did blood work, my test was ok, (don't ask me the #, can't remember) my doctor say was kind of early to start Test, he say i could try HCG for 8 weeks at dosage 250 ui/week (kind of low), get some blood work again to see any improvement.
    If your not on test then thats a different story, i would follow your doctors advice as i know a number of endos that run this protocol...
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    Thanks Matt, really appreciated....................

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    Quick Question sorry fot the hijack. But my blood test said that my liver is normal and kindneys are normal. Everything was fine except my test level was low. Does this mean my body is not fully recovered? I am 40 so I don't know how good my test level was to begin with.

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