Gyno help please!!!!!

[L3ftY]

i'm posting this for a friend who just finished up a cycle and is having some MAJOR issues with gyno...this is his first cycle, he's 21, pretty low bf (11-13ish prob)::



Hello everyone, I need some advice so hopefully someone will be able to help.

I am dealing with horrible gyno issues after running a deca test cyle.
The cycle went like this
week 1-6 deca @ 225mg
week 1-8 test enth @375mg
(total of 600mg of AAS per week)

I know this is a short cycle, but for some reason i dealt with puffy, sore nipples throughout, and used arimidex on cycle which kept it at bay.

Coming off the cycle I began my pct with nolva at the normal dosages, but my buddie and I still felt serious aggravation around the nipples so we decided to run letro.

1 week into pct I began the letro dosage while decreasing my nolva to 20 mg ed. I worked the letro quickly up to between 1.5 and 2mg ed and it felt like it was working and the nipples were looking a lot better.
However, upon seeing the results I began decreasing my letro dosage and by the time I got to .5 everyday I got a huge gyno flare up.

Not only did the puffiness and soreness come back but I have developed masses directly underneath my chest muscles that are constantly sore and noticeable as well as feeling aggravated around the nipples still. So consequently I increased my letro again and stopped taking nolva(I think it might be making it worse). This time the letro is not doing so well, and I am running out so I need to reduce and try something else.

Does anyone think that trying a progesterone reducer like prami at the same time as shocking my system with something such as clomid might help as I'm coming off the letro???

Thanks for everything

[L3ftY]

Bump

[scotty51312]

You're gyno could have been caused by prolactin, You shouldn't be cycling at 21 anyway. You're best option is to go see a doctor get bloodwork done to see if your prolactin or estrogen levels are elevated see if surgury is nessesary and stay away from AAS especially 19 nors like deca when you clearly didn't do your homework before you cycled

[L3ftY]

in response to that, what makes you think he didn't do his hw?? i don't really see anything wrong with cycling @ 21 when you've been working out and busting your ass consistently for years and have reached natural plateaus

i personally have at least 15 friends under 25 who have run enanthate/deca bulking cycles (usually much longer cycles with higher dosing and sometimes w/ dbol kickstart) with absolutely no issues whatsoever...

everybody's different and gonna react differently...but anyways...

does anybody see any possible treatment for now or any other options until he can get that bloodwork done next week???

once again, any info is greatly appreciated.


Thanks!

[Bonaparte]

Should have just run Aromasin straight through the cycle and PCT. But now that he's already got the lumps, I'm not sure what to do, other than keep using the Nolva (which will not make it worse) until he can get some Raloxifene to stack it with. Ralox is the best SERM to use for gyno, since blocking ERs in breast tissue is basically all it does.

[9za4ck4]

Should have just run Aromasin straight through the cycle and PCT. But now that he's already got the lumps, I'm not sure what to do, other than keep using the Nolva (which will not make it worse) until he can get some Raloxifene to stack it with. Ralox is the best SERM to use for gyno, since blocking ERs in breast tissue is basically all it does.

+1 for Aromasin, But agreed since he already has lumps not sure how much good itl do him now. It does lower estro. levels quite a bit tho I dont think it would hurt giving it a shot tho.

[L3ftY]

Should have just run Aromasin straight through the cycle and PCT. But now that he's already got the lumps, I'm not sure what to do, other than keep using the Nolva (which will not make it worse) until he can get some Raloxifene to stack it with. Ralox is the best SERM to use for gyno, since blocking ERs in breast tissue is basically all it does.

i've heard from so many people that using nolva for pct after running a 19 nor can and usually does make it worse...are you sure about that????

[bigpapabuff]

+2 for liquid Aromasin.

[Bonaparte]

i've heard from so many people that using nolva for pct after running a 19 nor can and usually does make it worse...are you sure about that????

It's a myth based on a poorly constructed theory.
Nobody has ever used Nolva and made their gyno worse.

[auslifta]

in response to that, what makes you think he didn't do his hw?? i don't really see anything wrong with cycling @ 21 when you've been working out and busting your ass consistently for years and have reached natural plateaus

i personally have at least 15 friends under 25 who have run enanthate/deca bulking cycles (usually much longer cycles with higher dosing and sometimes w/ dbol kickstart) with absolutely no issues whatsoever...

everybody's different and gonna react differently...but anyways...

does anybody see any possible treatment for now or any other options until he can get that bloodwork done next week???

once again, any info is greatly appreciated.


Thanks!

Because he started at too young age and only ran deca for 6 weeks, useless at that time frame.Also should have never used deca in first cycle. Your "friend" is suffering from youth, only cure is time and research. Just because you know other kids taking it and didnt get gyno does not mean they are ok and healthy. I'm sure they won't tell you how that can't get it up, or that they are having trouble pissing, or are emotional or.......................I hope you get the point.