which aas to use for short cycles.

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

I have been reading the burst load reloads and I want to give it a shot
I have done 5 cycles. my last was a yr ago.
I have cyp and tren now. are these good to stick with or should i try a different compound.
been reading about npp
ditch the tren for the next 8wks in favor of deca or eq?
i am 5' 7 220 31 yrs my bf guessing is 15
any input on compounds and doasages would be great. i am reading but I want to get going!

[Far from massive]

Test Prop is a great base of a blast. Tren A is fine as a second compound and in my opinion is one of the best ways to use Tren. In my experience if using Test Prop and Tren A run both for 4-7 wks then run the Prop alone for another 5-7 days to allow the Tren to clear in a Test rich environment.

I have not used NPP so I will leave that one for others.

[cro]

eq should be run at least 12 weeks

[MBMETC]

Agree with ffm, if your heart is set on tren then use tren a and prop.

[glover]

I would use Prop, with either NPP, or Tren A along with one of the following orals Winny, Var, Tbol. These all make good short cycle combos.

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

Im not stuck on tren. it is what i have on hand right now with some cyp
I want to run short cycles and run then for a few times as i have been reading.
I hold on to my gains pretty well but i do reach a sticking point as i have read most of us do. then my gyno kicks in so.
any suggestions on dosage? i have never ran prop or npp.
thanks gang

[Superhero d-bolman]

generally speaking the best steroids for short cycles are those that have shorter esters.

[MBMETC]

short cycle test-prop
short cycle 19 nors npp and tren a
if you want to run short cycles it will be dependant on what you have access to.

[carp123]

prop/npp/tren a/test supp/winny/anavar/tbol/mast prop/ not all in one cycle but there some of the common compounds people use for short cycles.

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

I have access to what ever I want.
Just looking for most effective.
not sure on dosage though
I have typically ran test 500mg 10wk and deca 400
around same dosage for eq and similar tren a for 8 weeks
I like tren not stuck on it. curious about npp

[carp123]

weeks 1-10 200mgs prop eod

weeks 1-9 150mgs npp every other day

weeks 1-8 100-150mgs tren a every other day

nice cycle ...

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

thats looks nice never ran prop or npp so could just save the cyp for later.
run normal pct or should i add hcg?
I am gyno pron too i have some fermara clomid and nolva what aother suggestions
appreciate the guidence !

[Honkey_Kong]

thats looks nice never ran prop or npp so could just save the cyp for later.
run normal pct or should i add hcg?
I am gyno pron too i have some fermara clomid and nolva what aother suggestions
appreciate the guidence !

nolva and clomid I wouldn't use until PCT. do you have arimidex or letro?

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

i have letro. right dont run those until pct
how much letro ?

[Honkey_Kong]

i have letro. right dont run those until pct
how much letro ?

I wouldn't run more than 1.25-1.5mgs every 3 days.

[marcus300]

You need to prime the body for around 6-8 wks before implementing a short cycle and then use short esters, preferably compounds what you have used before and respond good to, no need to use many compounds stick with around 2 and if you prime correctly you can go with 6 wk cycle.

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

I have used tren a and thats about it for short.
so maybe tren and prop?
i know i need more reading.
what do you mean by primeing the body?
so i could in theory run 6-8weeks come off 2 and then another 6-8?
im asking ?s so i dont **** it up also while i read.
appreiate all the feedback

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

ok sorry read the priming thread.
makes perfect sense.
I think i am going to save my cyp for bridging maybe.
run prop and the tren and get npp for next mini cycle
weeks 1-10 200mgs prop eod

weeks 1-9 150mgs npp every other day

weeks 1-8 100-150mgs tren a every other day

i like this one but am only going to run 2 compounds. dosages look good maybe a little lower see how the tren and prop work every other day150 of both eod
then come off and restart with prop and npp
i already have standard pct on hand and will order some hcg.
in case and more letro
appreciate guys!
i always blow my pct but dont lose much size i gain easy.
so am going to really buckle down.

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

something liike that maybe only 6-8 weeks.
going to read and re-read and re-read mini cycles and blasts.
i always stopped seeing results by week 10 except for my gyno.

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

10wks is a expensive cycle wow! but if i cut the prop and tren or prop and npp to 6 to 8 deload then reload i could make them a longer cycle and most cost effective?
i can only get tren prop and npp 100mg per 1cc

[Noles12]

I love a tren/prop cycle

[marcus300]

I have used tren a and thats about it for short.
so maybe tren and prop?
i know i need more reading.
what do you mean by primeing the body?
so i could in theory run 6-8weeks come off 2 and then another 6-8?
im asking ?s so i dont **** it up also while i read.
appreiate all the feedback

No you need to come off and recovery, you need to read and educate yourself far more, check out my priming thread and short burst cycle thread.

[chi]

sorry guys what is npp?

[marcus300]

Nandrolone Phenylpropionate

[chi]

thank you marcus

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

I will thanks marcus. dont worry wont inject anything into my body that i am not fully educated on.
really appreciate your time

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

I am reading and re-reading priming and bursts. Now my biggest ? is since i still need to collect my cycle
is the proper dosage
5cycles
test e test c 500 a week was max
deca 500 week max
eq400
tren a 75 eod
i am 31 220 15bf. i do experience gyno.
I have access to what I want
was thinking prop and tren or prop and npp or have been reading just prop
i feel i slow and stop gains around weeks 10 then my sides kick in just gyno. im already bald.LOL
weeks 1-6 200mgs prop eod

weeks 1-6 150mgs npp every other day


weeks 1-6 200mgs prop eod


weeks 1-6 100-150mgs tren a every other day
or is this a waste of time and money?
please help or direct me to where i can learn to come up with proper dosages.
many thanks!

[marcus300]

what as been your past cycles and dosages?
What previous dosages have created bad sides?
what dosages from your past cycles have been good towards gains vs sides

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

past cycle dosages
1st cycle was
test and deca 250mg 1x a wkthis was 5yrs ago
then i did another with just test and deca 500 week these were both 10 wk cycles I had a 6 month break between them
then i tried test e eq with dbol on front 4 weeks didnt like the cycle
i responded great to deca and test week 8to 10 nipples started getting itchy i only saw a tiny big of acne when coming off. i seem to always **** up my pct. just little zit not big zits
3 was test c 500 deca 400 and last 4 weeks with tren 75 e4d love tren love deca and test c.again seemed to peek at week 8 to 10 itchy nipples littlelump so i did get some adex cleared it up quick.
last 2 cycles were just 10 week
test c 500m
tren a 75 eod
these last 1 i noticed the most sides gyno bad got on letro and kicked it out! seemed like gains stopped week 8to10
this why i feel short hard ones are good for my body type. i gain fast stop gaining just as fast and sides kick in!
i have only used tren a as far as short esters go. so would prop, npp, tren, mast a be a good next run(not all together of course) and do blast for the next fews months? I would like to stick to one to two compounds.

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

so based off my experience and lack of experience where do you guys feel m dosages should fall for 6to 8 week cycles of short esters ?
do i just break that down
test prop 150to200 mg eod?
tren a 100 to 150 eod?