Another "Deca Only" Thread...

[396]

First post, but I wanted to throw this out there with the other on going discussions regarding this topic, plus I have a question or two.
I am currently doing Deca only, and am in week 5 of doing 1ml dose of 300mg/ml per week. My main goal for doing this was not to get big, nor cut (I'll get to my stats in a few) but to relieve some joint pain that I have heard Deca is so good at doing. After two knee surgeries, a few broken bones, a torn rotator, and a seperated shoulder, my sh!t is starting to hurt more and more the harder I train. I have experienced, no deca dick, I do not have any water retention, but I have noticed a few small pimples here and there, but nothing major. To boot, I have gained about 5-6lbs of good clean muscle mass since starting. I have done steroids before, but very mild stuff, like winstrol only to cut, and did two cycles of tren alone last year to cut.
Now for my stats...
32 (be 33 soon)
6ft
207 (as of yesterday)
~8.5-9%bf done by caliper and an electric impedance scale
I have been lifting since I was about 16, but really learned how to train and eat a few years ago. I train for more functional strength rather than to just get big. I do a lot of full body and split body routines, lots of explosion, running, jumping, and chit like that.

My question is, I can get some Test cyp or enanth to start at anytime. Should I start on a small dose of Tes 6 weeks into a Deca only cycle, and run it a few weeks past the end of the Deca?
Lemme know...

[Ernst]

300g/wk should be enough for the therapeutic benefit to your joints. You can some test if you want, but I'm not sure it's really in line with your goals? If you don't want all the size/cut I'm not even sure AAS is needed for your goals... At week 5 the deca should just really begin to be kicking in. So as far as deca dick you're not necessarily out of the woods yet, though the lower dose and the fact you've seen no evidence yet (or, I'm guessing, from the previous tren) may mean it just won't happen for you. I'm curious: are you taking any ancillaries right now? How long did you intend this deca cycle to last? I take it you have a good pct plan lined up?

[396]

I'm curious: are you taking any ancillaries right now? How long did you intend this deca cycle to last? I take it you have a good pct plan lined up?

No, not taking any ancilliaries. Intended for 10 weeks of use, and I was unsure whether I needed anything pct? Kinda one of the reasons I'm here. My person I get stuff from is very experienced, or seems to be with usage, and says I shouldn't need anything afterwards.
Should I wean down on the dosage, and cycle for longer? And what should be done for pct using Deca only? I've read til my eyes crossed, but haven't really come up with a good solution.

[D7M]

Sounds like you are one of the lucky ones. I've known guys before who would run tren only or deca only cycle, gain muscle and loose fat, and have no other apparent side effects (no prolactin/libido issues), while others do the same cycle and can't get it up for months.

Yes, you'll definitely need a solid PCT. Take some time to read the PCT stickies and get back to us with your proposed plan.

[Bonaparte]

Yeah, I'd add a bit of test to that. Just 100-200mg/week if you don't want to bulk up. And have a dopamine agonist on hand incase you get prolactin sides (deca dick). Oh, and you'll obviously need a solid PCT as well, since 19-nors are extremely suppressive.

[396]

Ok, I've lookeed thru the PCT forum, and cannot really come up with anything solid. What would be the recommended pct for coming off this?

[Bonaparte]

5000 IUs HCG throughout cycle or (less ideally) just before PCT.

Nolva: 40/20/20/20/20/20
Clomid:50/50/50/50

[396]

^Thnx!!

[MBMETC]

The addition of test at a trt dose would be wise. I don't want to rain on your parade but the last few weeks of deca is when problems start to rear their ugly head.
Good luck