cycle plan help

**bio** · 03-05-2003, 12:33 AM

need some help with my next cycle.
this will be my 3rd cycle, first cycle was only oxandrolone and 2nd cycle was durabolin & primo, low doses not much gains at all.
at this cycle i want to gain some "quality" lean mass wich i will be able to keep after my cycle.
im 22 150 lbs 7%bf training for 2 years, keeping good trainings and diet.
this is what i was thinking about....

week, enanthate , EQ , fina , winny
1-------------- 400-----------------
2-------250----400----------------
3-------375----400----------------
4-------500----400----------------
5-------500----400----------------
6-------500----400----------------
7-------375----400----------------
8-------250----400---75eod-------
9-------250----400---75eod--50ed
10------250----400---75eod--50ed
11------250----400---75eod--50ed
12-------------------75eod--50ed
13-------------------75eod--50ed

starting post cycle hcg and clomid from week 14.
using proviron and nolvadex throughout the cycle
and will keep some bromo on hand for the fina.
what do you think?????

**Rickson** · 03-05-2003, 12:41 AM

Run the enanthate from week 1 at 500 mg a week.

**Warrior** · 03-05-2003, 01:00 AM

Before you even go on cycle you need ot find out what is stopping you from hitting at least 190lbs without the androgens. Jumping on gear at 150lbs seems pretty... ummm... premature. Get your diet and training in tact and on a better growth curve. Androgens should not be a crutch but a supplement to what you already know is spot on. Otherwise - how are you going to know how to keep your gains? How will you keep from getting injured? Some shit you need to learn naturally... and 150lbs and on your third cycle... somehting ain't clicking brah... not flaming you - just telling you like it is. There are a lot of light weights looking for a magic pill latelty... and that is a big stack for your bodyweight...

Personally - I would rather you post in the training and diet section for several months before you run the gear... that's my .02

**Jenseno9** · 03-05-2003, 01:07 AM

Looks like a good cycle if you change the test like rickson said

**G Child** · 03-05-2003, 01:25 AM

I would not only change the test to start week 1 but to end week 10, not taper. Roll the tren and winny an extra week from weeks 9-14 because you will still have test and eq in your system week 13. Start your clomid couple days after tren and winny finishes.

**bio** · 03-05-2003, 04:57 PM

"Before you even go on cycle you need ot find out what is stopping you from hitting at least 190lbs without the androgens. Jumping on gear at 150lbs seems pretty... ummm... premature"

well thats just my body structure, i have thin bones and structure.
when i started training i was 105lbs!!(gain most of it at the first year of course) and i gain only muscle no fat.
so im kind of thin but muscular for my weight in comparison to otheres with my same weight.
im keeping my diet and trainings very firm.]

"Run the enanthate from week 1 at 500 mg a week"

o.k ill run it from week 1, but isnt 250mg of test for week (besides the the over-all dose of all my AAS: EQ, fina and winny) sufficient for my weight, i mean i am 45lbs above my natural weight but after all im not a 220lbs bull, so isnt that relatively enough? im specialy talking about weeks 8-11 when im on fina eq and winny