Did your test levels come back after cycle?

[enkephalin]

I have heard a lot of different stories with a wide range of results regarding how strongly one's test levels come back after cycle. I'd like to hear your personal input on what it was before and after each cycle.

[Spartans09]

Depends on many things like; age, what you ran, how long you ran it, what your pct was just to name a few of the more important factors.
Most people that do cycles over a few years, even with perfect pct tend to start to have a harder time recovering. In fact, many end up on trt. Me included. This is even more likely as you approach 35-40 years old and up.

[SomeRandomGuy]

Is there any real health hazard to just staying on, blasting and cruising for life? Other than being steroid dependent... The reason I don't like the idea of staying on is that I will need more and more mg of steroids eventually to get gains. This probably also holds true for each subsequent cycle even though I'm doing off cycles. I guess one problem I can see is that if you're gyno prone, you're bound to get it if you don't stay on AI's forever. And they're bad for you... Testosterone on the other hand is fairly safe for your health and liver friendly, right?

[Tigershark]

With every test e cycle yes. After my deca and test cycle....well that is still to be determined.

[enkephalin]

I always hear that the biggest fear of using steroids is gyno, but I would almost think that destroying your natural test levels would be worse.

[nhl1]

I have heard a lot of different stories with a wide range of results regarding how strongly one's test levels come back after cycle. I'd like to hear your personal input on what it was before and after each cycle.

After I used deca alone at the age of 25 w/o much knowledge of steroids and no pct - my test levels came back

After I used prohormones without pct - my test levels came back

After I ran a couple test/deca/eq cycles with Ar-r .com's nolva/clomid - my test levels came roaring back

After I ran a mega cycle of test/deca/winny/primobolan for 5 months with expired pct drugs - my test didn't come back quickly enough for me, so I went on self prescribed TRT for a couple years

After I stopped TRT - my test came back

I really feel bad for these guys who take steroids and it ****s up their natural junk, because I feel like it's something I never have to worry about. Maybe it's because I didn't start using any hormones until I was 25.

[Noles12]

When i run tren it takes me a little longer but test cycles i bounce back everytime. PCT is crucial though for recovery

[Superhero d-bolman]

honestly even though people say there is proof in the pudding that steroids can shut down your test permanently. I find that hard to believe... Yes steroids can shut down your natural test for years at a time maybe even a decade. But the human body is capable of making some enormous recoveries. You see guys in horrible car accidents with injuries that are just totally unbelievable and it takes FOREVER for them to recover. But then you see them 10 years later when their therapy, etc is done. and its as if nothing happen to them. I believe the body is really capable of bouncing back from some incredible shit, it's just that you gotta give it time. I just believe that many people on this board who say there test is permanently shut down as a result of steroids, i have a feeling that they should wait a lot longer then a year to come to that conclusion

Don't take my word on this though this is just my opinion i ain't no doctor.

[Noles12]

honestly even though people say there is proof in the pudding that steroids can shut down your test permanently. I find that hard to believe... Yes steroids can shut down your natural test for years at a time maybe even a decade. But the human body is capable of making some enormous recoveries. You see guys in horrible car accidents with injuries that are just totally unbelievable and it takes FOREVER for them to recover. But then you see them 10 years later when their therapy, etc is done. and its as if nothing happen to them. I believe the body is really capable of bouncing back from some incredible shit, it's just that you gotta give it time. I just believe that many people on this board who say there test is permanently shut down as a result of steroids, i have a feeling that they should wait a lot longer then a year to come to that conclusion

Don't take my word on this though this is just my opinion i ain't no doctor.

I dont think i have ever heard of someones test levels coming back after a decade. But i do think even after an extended amount of time such as a year, it is possible

[Superhero d-bolman]

who knows though, who's willing to wait that long? to be honest there's never been a long term study done on steroid users sadly. So everything we say about how steroids can effect us for the long term is all speculation and opinion for the time being. Right now there's no proof that steroids are dangerous in the long term, but there's also no proof that steroids aren't dangerous in the long term.

[Superhero d-bolman]

that is with proper cycling however, improper there is proof that is dangerous. Also i would say perhaps yeah a decade is a little long but a year certainly is way to short. I'd say give it 5 years until you come to conclusion that you'll never produce test again.

[Noles12]

who knows though, who's willing to wait that long? to be honest there's never been a long term study done on steroid users sadly. So everything we say about how steroids can effect us for the long term is all speculation and opinion for the time being. Right now there's no proof that steroids are dangerous in the long term, but there's also no proof that steroids aren't dangerous in the long term.

Im not claiming they are dangerous. But i do know of people who have low test levels for many years before they even get them tested. My father is a great example. He first got bloodwork done and had low levels at the age of 42, but it wasnt until he was 55 that he decided to go on TRT. There is a just a point of no return when it comes to that

[awms]

Just be smart about it...I personally only run one cycle a year and I dont think I would run one longer then 16 weeks ever.

I think people who go on and off every 8 weeks are playing with fire but to each their own.

go on 1-2 short cycles a year, do propers pct, get blood work done and you should be fine. If you get blood work done 8-12 weeks after your pct is done and you test levels arnt back to normal then dont run anything until they are...simple common sens.

[enkephalin]

Just be smart about it...I personally only run one cycle a year and I dont think I would run one longer then 16 weeks ever.

I think people who go on and off every 8 weeks are playing with fire but to each their own.

go on 1-2 short cycles a year, do propers pct, get blood work done and you should be fine. If you get blood work done 8-12 weeks after your pct is done and you test levels arnt back to normal then dont run anything until they are...simple common sens.

Have your test levels come back every time? And how many cycles have you done in your life?

[awms]

After only two cycle yes but I didnt go crazy. I have done two 10 week cycles both over 20 weeks apart with proper pct.

There are in here who are on and off year round...3-4 cycles a year and that when you start playing with fire. To each their own what ever makes a person happy I guess but I could never do it...plus I couldnt afford it haha

[enkephalin]

After only two cycle yes but I didnt go crazy. I have done two 10 week cycles both over 20 weeks apart with proper pct.

There are in here who are on and off year round...3-4 cycles a year and that when you start playing with fire. To each their own what ever makes a person happy I guess but I could never do it...plus I couldnt afford it haha

That sounds like you are a very responsible user. Kudos!

[Spartans09]

There are plenty of guys that have Done everything right with regards to pct, cycle length, not using to many or too harsh of compounds, not started until in their thirties etc., that now have chronic low total and/or free test. Try living with that for a year. It will suck the life out of you. A+B does not always = C.

[enkephalin]

There are plenty of guys that have Done everything right with regards to pct, cycle length, not using to many or too harsh of compounds, not started until in their thirties etc., that now have chronic low total and/or free test. Try living with that for a year. It will suck the life out of you. A+B does not always = C.

Do you mind sharing how you think you got on TRT? Was it the number of cycles you did, or length, or substance or genes? I'm just looking for people's personal experiences or the experience of someone close to them.

[enkephalin]

Or if anyone else has any personal experiences they want to share.