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    Smile Would like critique on 250/week C and training....please.

    Hi,

    I started with some decent research, and decided on the Steroid.com novice cycle: 400mgs C, 12 weeks + 4 weeks 20mgs Dbol.
    Also doing 6 months HGH 3.75iu 6/7.
    I purchased the goods, and planning to start AAS in March, after HGH jhave been admin. for 2 months.
    After advise from forum, I slashed the Dbol.
    After more scary posts from first timers doing 500/week Test, I´ve decided to only use 1 of my 2 bottles of C; meaning 2500 mgs: 250/week for 10 weeks.
    By this, I hope for no side effects, and if I have good results, I could always do the other bottle of Test in 6 months....right?
    Will I still need to do the HCG and AI during cycle, and standard 4 week Nolv/Clo PCT?
    Does the HGH do anything for me regarding Estrogen control?

    Could you boys please critique my training?

    Now, until end of cycle:
    10 min. warm up jog every day
    All, 4x6-8
    Monday: Chest; Bench, incline dumbells, bench machine, cable flyes.
    Tuesday: Back, Abs; Standard pulls, rows
    Wednsday: Legs
    Thursday: Chest, Tri; Incline Smith, Incline Machine, Fly machine + Tri
    Friday: Shoulders, Abs; Smith behind neck, Machine, Dumbell raises
    Saturday: Biceps
    Sunday: Rest

    The reason for emphasizing Chest is because it needs more size to be proportional.

    After cycle:
    Monday: Chest, Triceps
    Tuesday: Back, Biceps
    Wednesday: Rest
    Thursday: Legs
    Friday: Shoulders, Abs
    Sat, Sun: Rest

    Stats:
    Age: 42
    Height: 6,4
    Weight: 225
    BF: 12-13 (Machine at gym is unreliable)
    Diet: 5 meals/day, 3 shakes, Creatine, Glutamine, Multi, ZMA, BCAA, Fish oil, 1MR

    Think thats it ....thanks

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    Hi, Can't tell you about test because i never used, but the pros here will came along and say 500 mg will be the best, 2x250mg/week.
    Can tell you about hcg because I'm on it (endo prescript) will keep your bolls healthy and your sack down. (2x250uis/week)
    You need and AI during cycle to prevent estrogen rebound (I belive this is the word). Can find to our sponsor ar-r
    Can tell you about HGH, (i'n on it 5ui/day 5 on 2 of) doing the some like you, waiting for grow before cycle, HGH doesn't do anything for estrogen control.
    PCT will be good like you say.
    Make sure you have your diet.
    Wish you the best..................

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    Actually at 42 years of age I think he could get a significant bump in strength and size at 250mgs per week and would advise that over jumping to 500mgs. I also disagree about him needing an AI during the cycle. It would be smart to have some on hand but at that dosage he more than likely wont have estrogen issues.

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    Thanks

    I go back and forth on doing 250/week or 500/week, pending on what I read ...hehe

    I read 2 different advises on AI. Some say take with cycle, and some say, keep on hand.
    From what I understand there are only 2 minor negatives by taking AI on cyclel less gains and the cost?. Which I guess is a small price to pay to avoid possible Estrogen side effects.
    I guess, if I don´t take an AI, and let my estrogen level run up above 100, which it will, and then experience side effects, it will require more AI and maybe Nolv to get it under control?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireGuy View Post
    Actually at 42 years of age I think he could get a significant bump in strength and size at 250mgs per week and would advise that over jumping to 500mgs. I also disagree about him needing an AI during the cycle. It would be smart to have some on hand but at that dosage he more than likely wont have estrogen issues.
    Ok...you answered my Q.
    I guess I was typing while you were as well :-)

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    I know more is always tempting. I say split the difference if you can't decide. Fireguy makes a good point that just 250 is probably a fine idea. 350mg/wk makes a great first cycle. I'd keep the AI on hand, just in case. You may not need it.

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    U still think I need the 100/100/50/50 Clo and 40/40/20/20 Nolv. with doing only 250/week for 10 weeks?
    Maybe a 2 week PCT, and see how it goes?

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    You should still do a full pct. If that's the one you want, it's pretty standard and has worked well for many folks over the years.

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    Ok...I´ll do a full PCT, but maybe I´ll dial it down slightly to 50/50/50/50 and 20/20/20/20.
    And with the Test C, I can pin 125 mgs every 3 days.....equals 312mgs/week for 8 weeks...total 2500mgs.
    And I´ll save the second bottle for another cycle in the fall.
    The Dbol I don´t want. I´ll give it to my Dog.
    I´ll run 200 x2/week HCG during cycle, and up to starting PCT, which starts 2 weeks after last pin.
    AI on hand.
    Work out like a MF!
    Sounds good?

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    ANyone else?
    Anyone think it is a waste to run C 125mgs every 3 days for 8 weeks?
    Use the other bottle as well, and run 250mgs every 4 days, equals 420mgs/week, which will stretch the cycle to 11,5 weeks.

    How about my training, doing Chest twice a week because I need it to grow more than the rest?

    Thanks for any input.

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