This is the best I can do, what do you guys think?

[mort]

I'm thinking of doing a 5 week cycle of test 400. A week after my last shot starting on a bottle of Arimidex for a month one pill a day and that's it. What do you guys think?

[RaZr]

What are your stats?

Age
height
weight
bf
training exp
cycle exp

[SlimmerMe]

Welcome....and like Raz said....stats please

[mort]

31
5-8
176
about 12-14% havent checked in a few weeks
I've been lifting for a few years now
I've only done 2 other cycles and they were both 5 week cycles.
The first one I did was stanobolic
The second one I did was test cyponate
After the stan cycle I used a product called RAGE for pct
For the cyponate cycle I used a product called arimidex.
My only complaint was after the cyponate cycle my left nipple hurt pretty bad for about 3 days then went away. I hade good gains on both.

[mort]

I read on all this stuff I'm supposed to do after and it confuses the hell out of me. It makes it sound so much harder.

[SlimmerMe]

thanks....the guys will chime in.....

[Bonaparte]

So...why is that abortion of a cycle the "best you can do"?

[mort]

Thats the only stuff I can get. I dont have good contacts.

[mort]

I know its a sorry excuse for a cycle but like I said thats all I can get.

[jla1986]

First what kind of test are you running. And I would get some more and run it for 10 weeks. As for the pct Nolva or clomid would be best but normally dont start pct from test 2 to 3 weeks after your last shot.

[mort]

I'm running Testosterone 400. Do you guys think this cycle will be counterproductave or will I be able to make some gains?

[grumpee]

I'm running Testosterone 400. Do you guys think this cycle will be counterproductave or will I be able to make some gains?

How many mgs a week of the test 400 do you plan on running ?

You also need to run it 10-12 weeks. 5 weeks is a waist in my opinion

[mort]

I don't know the mgs but I will do a 2 cc shot once a week.

[mort]

Would I really get that much more out of it if I did an 8 or 10 week cycle . My problem with that is I can't get the proper PCT drugs.

[carp123]

1ml per week(400mgs) for 10 weeks you need nolvadex and clomid for pct ..

[layeazy]

you can get pct of this site mate ARR everything you need.

I would get another bottle of the test though dude and run a 10 week cycle.

[Noles12]

I don't know the mgs but I will do a 2 cc shot once a week.

You dont know how much you are injecting so you just randomly pick an amount. That is crazy and a good way to hurt yourself.

From the looks of it your test is dosed at 400 mg/ml and it is a long estered test. Therefore 5 weeks will do nothing. At that point the benefits of it will just be starting to kick in. Also one "pill" of arimidex per day is not a PCT.

For now you need to research more so you know what you are putting in your body. Do not run anything until you can run a proper cycle and PCT and understand what you are injecting or taking

[mort]

Yeah I definately am uneducated. I will take all of your advice and get better educated and get the right dose and proper pct. Layeazy Im not really getting your meaning. My problem is the few guy I know with experience with the stuff know about as much as I do and it's just real hard to get the right stuff.

[MBMETC]

If it's test 400 it's 400mgs per ml I'll assume it's a10 ml multiple dose vial. How many vials do you have your post isnt making any sense, if your going to do 2mls pw for 5 weeks than you have enough to do 400 mgs pw for 10 weeks.

[mort]

I have no idea what the hell is going on! The vial that I got from my buddy says 400 on the top of it written in pen and that is it! There is no other label on it. The more I read the more I realize I dont know. I didnt realize there is different mgs per ml. I just thought a 1.5 or 2 cc shot was standard.

[Bonaparte]

I have no idea what the hell is going on! The vial that I got from my buddy says 400 on the top of it written in pen and that is it! There is no other label on it. The more I read the more I realize I dont know. I didnt realize there is different mgs per ml. I just thought a 1.5 or 2 cc shot was standard.

If you can give/sell it back to him, then do that. Otherwise, put it in a drawer and forget about it for a long time...and let the learning begin.

[Noles12]

Truthfully i would throw it away. How do you know what that really is? I mean you have a clear vial with some liquid in it and 400 written on top. What if its just vegetable oil and the guy made a quick buck off of you. You have no way of knowing what that is or what it is dosed at

[Bonaparte]

Truthfully i would throw it away. How do you know what that really is? I mean you have a clear vial with some liquid in it and 400 written on top. What if its just vegetable oil and the guy made a quick buck off of you. You have no way of knowing what that is or what it is dosed at

You could say the same for any UGL gear...
It sounds like homebrewed 400mg/ml test to me. Nothing wrong with that, provided he trusts the source and whoever made it.

[SlimmerMe]

If you can give/sell it back to him, then do that. Otherwise, put it in a drawer and forget about it for a long time...and let the learning begin.

^^^^ this

[Pac Man]

it sounds like he pulled some from a separate vial and just hooked you up with it. Cruise the forums and learn a bit.

[mort]

OK I'm slightly more educated now. I talked to the guy that i get it from and he says he gets stuff like that all the time and has good results from it. Its what he is using now. Heres my plan now. I want to do an 8 week cycle and use nolvadex and clomid for pct . Now I just have to figure out how to use the nolvadex and clomid ? Like does it come in a pill or liquid form? If liquid how is it administered? and what dosages for each?

[mort]

Can someone explain this

SERMS:
Clomiphene: 4 weeks @ 100mg ed first 2 weeks, 50mg ed last 2 weeks.
Tamoxifen: 4-6 weeks @ 20mg ed (40mg ed for first 2 weeks if you wish)

[BJJ]

You dont know how much you are injecting so you just randomly pick an amount. That is crazy and a good way to hurt yourself.

From the looks of it your test is dosed at 400 mg/ml and it is a long estered test. Therefore 5 weeks will do nothing. At that point the benefits of it will just be starting to kick in. Also one "pill" of arimidex per day is not a PCT.

For now you need to research more so you know what you are putting in your body. Do not run anything until you can run a proper cycle and PCT and understand what you are injecting or taking

...x2

[fishizzle0927]

Can someone explain this

SERMS:
Clomiphene: 4 weeks @ 100mg ed first 2 weeks, 50mg ed last 2 weeks.
Tamoxifen: 4-6 weeks @ 20mg ed (40mg ed for first 2 weeks if you wish)

is this brail or something?!

[MBMETC]

Can someone explain this

SERMS:
Clomiphene: 4 weeks @ 100mg ed first 2 weeks, 50mg ed last 2 weeks.
Tamoxifen: 4-6 weeks @ 20mg ed (40mg ed for first 2 weeks if you wish)

t's a pct layout

[Bonaparte]

Can someone explain this

SERMS:
Clomiphene: 4 weeks @ 100mg ed first 2 weeks, 50mg ed last 2 weeks.
Tamoxifen: 4-6 weeks @ 20mg ed (40mg ed for first 2 weeks if you wish)

If you can't figure that out, its just a sign that you aren't ready yet. Anyone who has been around for a while can easily interpret that.

[mort]

Hey thanks for the helpful responses guys!!
I was just confused about the stuff bieng liquid. I didn't know what mg ed ment.
and about the brail sorry its actually greek