WEEKS: 8 vs 12.........

Most of you advocate a 10-12 week cycle (E,C or whatever)
With some saying less than 10 is a waste.

What do say about Ronnie Rowland´s sticky:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t-to-read-this!

Ronny say:

"You can run test enanthate for 12 weeks or longer but at the 8 week point you would need to increase the dosages to continue making noticeable gains. It's not well understood as to why steroid cycles stop working well after 8 weeks but according to William Llewelln in his book ANABOLICS 9TH EDITION-" it's believed to be related to the new metabolic limits placed on muscle cells under the influece of a certain dosage of steroids, not insensitivity to the AAS. Classic downregulation does not occur with these drugs and even if it did, rotating steroids would not prevent it".

8 weeks if using a short ester not if I was using E/C

you can tamper the dosage as you see how you react

15 wks is the sweet spot for me

I would also think a longer cycle (ie 16 weeks) would make more sense if you are cutting. You can continue shedding fat while maintaining your lean mass.

Ronnie talks about this in his section it a sticky.Great read try it bro.

Well, that´s what I did.
And before reading the sticky, my impression was that a E or C cycle should run for at least 10 weeks, pref 12.
But Ronnie says that there is no need to run past 8, unless we up the dosage.
I will start my cycle in 4 weeks, and right now I think I will run 420 mgs for 12 weeks.
But I keep changing my mind on this for each thread I read on the subject, so who knows what I will end up with.
If I was this indecisive at my job, people would die...lol

10-12 weeks if perfect for a longer ester like enth or cyp.

Save the advanced AAS techniques (Ronnie's STS) for down the road.

D7M...I have to grab the opportunity while u are here..

What do u think about doing Chest twice per week, and the rest once, while on, because I need the chest to grow more due to proportions?
Here is the thread:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ning....please.

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Originally Posted by First Timer 42

D7M...I have to grab the opportunity while u are here..

What do u think about doing Chest twice per week, and the rest once, while on, because I need the chest to grow more due to proportions?
Here is the thread:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ning....please.

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Chest is still a relatively small body part, I personally wouldn't hit it twice a week.

Only body part I ever had success with 2x/wk was legs.

You could experiment and see what works for you, or it could just be as simple as changing up the routine a bit. I noticed you didn't have weighted dips for chest, might want to think about adding them as well.

ok...thanks for the input...
I´ve had great success working 1 bodypart per day....6 days Gym, 1 day rest.
Also mentally easy when u know u´re just going to the gym to hit Shoulders or Biceps.
I´ll see if I can rework my chest day, and stick with once/week like I have been doing.
I´ve been considering to skip the Bench and start the following routine :
30 degree incline Smith, 15 degree incline dumbells, 15 degree decline machine, fly machine.
I hear your Dip....but a 20 year old shoulder injury prevents me from certain movements/angles.