first cycle

**Tatumbugg** · 02-07-2011, 03:41 PM

Ok im 35 i have been lifting for 18 years. I had a slap on my shoulder about a year ago and im just not getting strong again. Also I gained some belly while i was laid up. I have a naturally big build im 6ft 210 19% bf. Im looking to cut up and gain some strenght. I have some test prop and tren .

For best results
Should I do both?
Should I front load the cycle?
How many weeks?

**carp123** · 02-07-2011, 04:24 PM

1- up to you if you want to run both ,seems you have the training experance to cycle

2- no need to front load short esters as they kick in fast anyway

3- 8 to 10 week cycle ,here is what i would do

weeks 1-10 150mgs test prop every other day

weeks 1-8 75 to 100mgs tren a every other day

make sure you have ai on hand for gyno or bloat problems and also a good strong pct ,as your running a 19 nor steroid (tren) i would use hcg on cycle at 400iu every 4th day ....

**Matt** · 02-07-2011, 04:29 PM

This is your first cycle so leave the tren well alone, trust me you will regret it...

Test is fine for your first cycle run it for 8-10 weeks...

If i were you id try and reduce that bf some before your cycle for better results....

**carp123** · 02-07-2011, 04:31 PM

opppps lol dident see it was his first cycle ,to the op as above leave the tren out and just do test for 8-10 weeks ..

**Tatumbugg** · 02-07-2011, 05:57 PM

Im really nervous about my first needle. I can't afford to screw up and miss work. I do physical labor for a living. butt, shoulder, or thigh?

**sprinter911** · 02-07-2011, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by Tatumbugg

Im really nervous about my first needle. I can't afford to screw up and miss work. I do physical labor for a living. butt, shoulder, or thigh?

Quads. Theyre right in front of you and you can see what your doing. You'll probably be a little sore but you'll get used to it. Don't sweat it.

Tren : In my professional opinion, with a reasonable degree of medical certainty, you should NOT use tren during your first cycle. The sides can be horrible. Trust me....

--Sprint

**Tatumbugg** · 02-07-2011, 06:33 PM

With just doing the test p. should i prep for gyno and if it shows take care of it or just take meds from the start to finish of the cycle.

**carp123** · 02-07-2011, 07:14 PM

only start gyno meds if you see/feel gyno comeing ...

nolva 20mg every day or adex .25mg eod should hold back any gyno..

**songdog** · 02-07-2011, 09:04 PM

yeah you should drop your bf down to 15% beacuse aas aint for losing weight.You increase your chances of gyno with high bf.And chances are you are more than 16.

**jla1986** · 02-07-2011, 10:11 PM

I would take the shot in the hip wont be near as sore. Lean up against the wall looking into the mirror take all the weight off of the side you injecting into and stick your self.

**Tatumbugg** · 02-08-2011, 10:09 AM

Im triming down daily now that im back in the groove. I just moved and had to find a new gym and the holidays got me. I should be around 15% bf by time i start.