Shoot me down then !!

[k.rivers]

hi i am looking to start my first cycle in about 6 months. ive had dbol before at 50mg e/d for about 3 weeks and gained 2 stone, but i think that was probly a stone of water on each of the big bitch nipples it gave me.

im 21 years old
11 stone
6 ft.1
low body fat (not sure exactly)

money is tite at the moment but ive got a stinka of an apatite so when i can afford it ill eat my way to 12.5 stone with some creatine in no time before i start.
Anyway this is what i was thinkin

week 1-4 40mg dbol
week 1-10 HGH @ 2 iu e/d. Test e @ 60mg e/d HCG @ 250 iu mon + thu

armidex on hand as on cycle a.i

week 10 stop everthing exept the hgh

week 13 start pct:

Week 1: 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 2: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 3: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 4: 20mg Nolva ED

ill be on a 4000 calorie clean 40/40/20 diet

any suggestions?

[38jumper38]

You need to wait longer then 6 moths, what about 6 years?
Money tight, its ok, buy food and traing hard.

[MACHINE5150]

you are 6'1" and 154lbs?? you need to go to the diet section.. steroids will not help you unless you learn how to eat.. you need to get up to at least 13-14 stone naturally before juicing otherwise you risk seriously injurying yourself.. not to mention you are too young.. use the next few years to learn and train naturally..

I wouldn't bother with HGH for at least another decade or so

[fishizzle0927]

talk about a head first dive.......?

[k.rivers]

dont get me rong im no novice to bb i bang more than some of my 14 stone mates and i dont have a problem with food exept at the moment im skint but ill get good money coming in now so when im 22 in 6 months i will defo be 12.5 stone of lean mass and im defo startin a test cycle. i apresiate your advice and understand you no ur stuff but please give me sum advice on this cycle?

[k.rivers]

Sorry i forgot 2 add im 11.5 stone at nite and 11 stone in the mornin.

[k.rivers]

i didnt say either that i have been on 4000 cal a day clean diets a few times and apart from when i was on dbol the food just went thru me and i could never get over 12 stone i have a crazy matabalism.

[carp123]

10 weeks hgh at 2iu a day = totaly and uter waste

60mgs test e every day = wtf? why inject 60mgs every day

your undereducated,too young and have no place useing aas yet

[k.rivers]

wont 60 mgs every day give the most stable blood levels compared to every 3 days?

[k.rivers]

and why is hgh @ 2 iu a day a waste wot would you say ?

[Flier]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...one-interested

[Fetch]

Sorry bro, but you really should not be using. Your diet is also clearly off and your proposed cycle indicates you haven't done enough research. At 154 lbs, 6'1... you are WAY underweight. Even if you were old enough, you would be asking for injury by using steroids. Your body is in no way ready for it.
In addition, you are greatly magnifying your risks by using steroids before your endocrine system is done developing. Most people will be in development until around the age of 24-25. While it's growing, you do NOT want to shut it down by taking steroids.. you are seriously risking ****ing yourself for life.

We are only trying to help you.

[carp123]

wont 60 mgs every day give the most stable blood levels compared to every 3 days?

nope test e has a 14 day ester release time so x2 per week is totaly fine to keep blood levals stable ,even x1 per week ,60mgs test e every day is just stupid

and why is hgh @ 2 iu a day a waste wot would you say ?

becasue gh need running for 4-6 months min at more than 2iu per day ,2iu per day for 10 weeks is also stupid ,what you expecting out of 2iu per day for 10 weeks?

[k.rivers]

can i just say aswell that if you guys can convins me it WILL be dangerous i wont start.
the reason i think it wont be is coz my best mate is my age his 2 inches shorter than me an bin liftin hard since he was 15 but could not get above 11 stone. hes now 14 stone and hes on test he started it when he was 19 and apart from some spots he had about a year agao hes 100% healthy.

[songdog]

To young to skinny.Wait till your 25 until then.Go to the diet section and research aas.Now if you disobey me.I will have Slimmer Me throw you a beatin lol

[JohnnyVegas]

If you are broke, then you will relate to this: if you screw up your Endocrine system, you will end up on TRT for the rest of your life. It costs a few hundred bucks a month, and without it you will feel like crap all the time, have no sex drive and never be able to grow.

[k.rivers]

carp123 i know that hgh wont do much if anytink but i was thinkin if i take it from the beging for 6 months that wen i stop the test it will keep my body in an anabolic state for the pct.

wot i dont get is if shootin test twice a week keeps blood levels more stable than once a week why wouldnt blood levels be more stable shootin once a day

[carp123]

can i just say aswell that if you guys can convins me it WILL be dangerous i wont start.
the reason i think it wont be is coz my best mate is my age his 2 inches shorter than me an bin liftin hard since he was 15 but could not get above 11 stone. hes now 14 stone and hes on test he started it when he was 19 and apart from some spots he had about a year agao hes 100% healthy.

side effects come later in life mate ,you will learn the hard way like many others

[carp123]

can i just say aswell that if you guys can convins me it WILL be dangerous i wont start.
the reason i think it wont be is coz my best mate is my age his 2 inches shorter than me an bin liftin hard since he was 15 but could not get above 11 stone. hes now 14 stone and hes on test he started it when he was 19 and apart from some spots he had about a year agao hes 100% healthy.

side effects come later in life mate ,you will learn the hard way like many others

[k.rivers]

ok i understand the Endocrine thing so is there any thing i can take to get an edge that wont mess up that and wot is the absalute bair minimum age i can take test?

[carp123]

carp123 i know that hgh wont do much if anytink but i was thinkin if i take it from the beging for 6 months that wen i stop the test it will keep my body in an anabolic state for the pct.

wot i dont get is if shootin test twice a week keeps blood levels more stable than once a week why wouldnt blood levels be more stable shootin once a day

the test ester is released over a 14 day period ,after 3.5 days the ester is still releaseing at a even pace to keep bloods stable ( x2 per week = one injection ever 3.5 days) test prop or test supsesion every day yes ,test e ever day ,hell no

[k.rivers]

ooo i 4got to add aswell my pals big bro has bin on alsorts since 20 and hes 27 now with 19 stone of pure lean mass on him and he seems healthy as a horse. will he get poblems l8r on in life then?

[JohnnyVegas]

ok i understand the Endocrine thing so is there any thing i can take to get an edge that wont mess up that and wot is the absalute bair minimum age i can take test?

If you listen to the guys in the diet section, I can guarantee you can start to pack on muscle. They will be glad to help out, and they won't give you any bullshit. You just have to trust them.

[k.rivers]

carp 123 i fully apresiate that you know more than me about this and that there may be no added benafit of test shot e/d but you still havent explained what harm it could do?

[carp123]

carp 123 i fully apresiate that you know more than me about this and that there may be no added benafit of test shot e/d but you still havent explained what harm it could do?

what harm will shooting test e ever day do ? well no harm at all except its totaly pointless and not needed ,oh yer you will build up a good ammount of scar tissue for no reason at all ...

[k.rivers]

oooooooooooo hahaha fer play carp i didnt fink about scar tissu thanx for the advice knowlage realy is power

[k.rivers]

i know this mite not be the rite section but anyone know if that zma and bulgarian tribulus works?
and wot is the bare minimum age i can start aas
and will the 3 weeks dbol i did have messed me up???

[JohnnyVegas]

o...and he seems healthy as a horse. will he get poblems l8r on in life then?

Lack of symptoms are NOT a good way of diagnosing medical problems. The guy that drops dead of a heart attack often feels fine minutes before dying.

[k.rivers]

Lack of symptoms are NOT a good way of diagnosing medical problems. The guy that drops dead of a heart attack often feels fine minutes before dying.

hahahaha ye i know wot ya meen bruv but to be fair every1 at evry age is tekin risks wiv aas wich is why i dont giv a sht

TO GET WOT UVERS DONT U MUST DO WOT UVAS WONT !

[k.rivers]

would that 3 weeks of dbol of messed me up then?

[Fetch]

I believe I explained pretty well the main problem with using steroids at your age. Let this sink in.
You are shutting down your endocrine system.
While. It's. Trying. To. Grow.
In essence, while your endocrine system is still developing you are turning it off. This has obvious negative effects. No, we can't say that 100% you will develop problems solely for choosing to use steroids at your age. But you are DRASTICALLY magnifying the chance of having problems. Here is what could easily happen: You lose your ability to produce enough testosterone naturally. This causes depression, lack of sex drive, inability to get an erection, etc. Not something you want in your early 20s. The medical solution? You are forced to spend a great deal of money every month for Hormone Replacement Therapy. Your temporary foray into steroids just became permanent.
If that doesn't sound 'bad enough,' then screw it, enjoy impotence.

[cro]

to young

[higgy]

Is this kid serious or maybe I'm high

[higgy]

Why does he keep rambling on?

Hey kid, listen to these guys, they know a thing or two

[Tigershark]

Too young.