First Cycle, Advice Appreciated!

**super-pump** · 02-10-2011, 01:25 PM

Hey guys, ready to buy some gear for my first cycle...here's my stats and the basics of what I have decided to do based on my research and friends' advice.
24 years old
6'00
180 Lbs
approx 15% bf
training hard for 3 years

I have decided to go with Dbol and some form of test....either test e or test 400....PCT i have not fully decided yet as i could still use lots of advice in that area, however from research and what i have been told i should definitely get some nolvadex . Also, i REALLY want to make sure gyne. doesn't occur...shit freaks me out haha.

Please help me in any way you can! advice on the cycle lenght, amounts, PCT, ANYTHING! I really appreciate your help! Thanks!

**yeahbuddy289** · 02-10-2011, 01:45 PM

Your body fat is ok but should be a little lower, also at 6' 180 sounds like you need some diet work...

test e 350-400mg a week for ten weeks. Take every 3.5 days
Dbol 30mg a day for 3-4 weeks. Take 10mg in the morning and 20mg before working out.

Take milk thistle for your liver as the dbol is pretty harsh on it. Keep nolva on hand for gyno symptoms and pct.

PCT I would do:
week 1-2: 100mg clomid before bed, 20mg nolva
week 2-4: 50mg clomid - - , 20mg nolva
week 5: 25mg clomid, 20mg nolva

**super-pump** · 02-10-2011, 02:08 PM

thanks! actually closely resembles what I had in mind.....what are your thoughts on a dbol only cycle? some people have told me that being my first cycle, dbol by itself will produce great results....yes or no? also, is it against the forum rules for me to post the prices i am paying for this stuff? I am a little worried that I may be getting ripped off as I dont really know the dealer...

**hollyroid84** · 02-10-2011, 02:21 PM

You need to gain about 15 to 20 more pounds before you even start to think about doing a cycle. But if you cant wait yeah buddy's advice is gtg. Being a fellow 6 footer and once weighing what you do i know for a fact you are nowhere near your naturally potential in weight. This means only 1 thing, your not eating enuf. BTW steroid .com has prices under the profiles tab.

**gregghowie** · 02-10-2011, 02:36 PM

Why dont you run straight test as suggested above and see how you react as it is your first cycle??? As said you are no where near your weight potential so you will probably but on quite a lot of weight, with just a long ester test. But make sure your diet is on point as you are going to be have to be eating like a truck to gain, juice or no juice.

**super-pump** · 02-10-2011, 04:43 PM

so noone thinks a dbol only cycle is suitable?

**yeahbuddy289** · 02-10-2011, 04:43 PM

Yes gain some weight.. thats what you need to do first. And for your first cycle it is a good idea to keep it to one drug. If you take two different compounds and start getting side effects you wont know what drug is causing it. As for the dbol only cycle.... I have only done one cycle and thats exactly what it was. Went 5 weeks at 30mg a day gained about 12 pounds and have kept all of it (I didnt retain water like most people). My strenght was up.. weight went up... and am in my 2nd week of pct and feel great havent had any side effects. People dont like oral cycles because they say you lose pretty much everything you gain, and dbol shuts down your bodys natural production of test. and if your not replenishing with something like test E you could get limp d*ck....

**super-pump** · 02-10-2011, 09:02 PM

okay so if I decide to do the dbol only cycle does that change anything about my PCT? should i still run nolva and clomid or is just one of them sufficient?

**yeahbuddy289** · 02-11-2011, 05:08 PM

Well your not going to be running the Dbol as long so PCT can be a little shorter
My PCT:
weeks 1-2: clomid 50mg a day. Nolva 20mg a day.
weeks 2-4: clomid 25mg a day. Nolva 20mg a day
Also continue taking milk thistle during pct.
Some people say you can get away with one or the other but i would leave it to chance.