confused and scared!

[roundhouse]

Hey guys im new to the forums but not new to BB. I have some questons and i appreciate all the help. Got a couple proplems and im trying to help my buddy and i figure this stuff out. Ok here it goes;

So to start let me give you some backround info. I started lifting about 5 yrs ago. I have always been natural and never even used a pro-hormone till 1 yr ago. I started at 270lb and cutted to a very lean 6% bf 202. With in the last year i got my diet in check, im consuming 1.5 grams of protein per body weight, taking good vitamins, and just a pre workout. Just the basics and i have gotten up to 215 @ 10% BF very lean and healthy. I decided to take just Anadrol-50 1ml of 50mg oral once a day. im two weeks in and im just starting to get the strength that comes with it, and some of the water weight and now weigth 218lb. anyways long story short im getting good result from bulking with a proper diet, and using anadrol-50 now. Now my Big question is, im want to start a cycle. I lift with a bunch of guys who use and i get told tons and tons of different info, what works and what dosnt. and to be honest with what i have been told and what i read on here nothing makes much since. Im wanting to do a simple cycle of test plus dbol, or anadrol-50. the test that the guys get around here is called SUPER T, wich i believe after reading is just test E. My stats are im 25, 218lbs, im 6'6, 10% bf, diet is in check. I need help with a simple cycle, with all the proper ways to do it, what to properly take with the test, i understand the PCT but please include that. I just want to know the best, and safest way to do a cycle, so i can seperate the BS from what real. thanks in advance.

Ok the next question is for my buddy;
my buddy is 5'9 185lbs 12% bf. he started 8months ago at 135lb and is currently at 185lb. he was hidding the fact he was using test plus anadrol-50. the info he got has messed him up and im worried for his health. the guy who was suppling him i believe just wanted his ,money. he used 1.5cc test 3 times a week, and at one time was jacked using up to 5 cc. anyways he gained weight and size but has had tons of problems. he used for 8months with little to no time off. he has gyno real bad now because the guy selling never told him to use a pct or run his test cycles with anything but test/decca or test/tren. anyways i guess he got good results with the first couple bottles, but after that results stopped, and his nipples started to get really inflamed. now he has gyno, and is scared that he chest is never going to look right.

Thanks for the help. I guess my case isnt bad and im asking for the right ways to do this so i dont end up like my buddy. we work out everyday together and i would like us to use toegther also. but i want him to get back to normal and i want to run a cycle the proper way.

[xxblazenlowxx]

Confused and scared are you kidding me? Tell your friend to stop, do a strong pct and get blood work. What's a good pct you say? Go to pct section, he should start his own thread if he really cares about his body.

If your stats are genuine http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ner-cycle-info

[gregghowie]

Just to clarify you are wanting to start a cycle, but you are taking anadrol???
Mate sounds like your on cycle....

[roundhouse]

Confused and scared are you kidding me? Tell your friend to stop, do a strong pct and get blood work. What's a good pct you say? Go to pct section, he should start his own thread if he really cares about his body.

If your stats are genuine http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ner-cycle-info

ok im scared for him, and confused on all ther BS we have been told. The reason i asked was for correct info and to not be critisized. thanks for the info for him, I told him about letro and how to reverse the gyno. I have read up on here since i posted and starting to awnser my questions about his case. Now i read up on novadex. do you mind letting me know where i can possible get that? ar-r sells the letro and clomid, i didnt see nolvadex.

[roundhouse]

And yes my stats are genuine. thanks for the link.

[roundhouse]

Just to clarify you are wanting to start a cycle, but you are taking anadrol???
Mate sounds like your on cycle....

and yes i meant i wanted to try a cycle of inject. not just oral. i meant a real cycle as in injecting. thanks

[layeazy]

Before you start cycle read up about HCG and PCT and then i would look into it more otherwise you will just waste your first cycle...

[xxblazenlowxx]

Tamox

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

Yes AR-R supplies Nolvadex you just have to look for it. We are all here to help but no-one here wants to spoon feed someone all the info that they could have found themselves with minimal effort using the search feature.

My suggestion to you is this: Research your own 1st injectable cycle and the appropriate pct for said cycle and post it and we would all be happy to critique it and let you know what you should add or take away. For me it is about effort, if I feel like you have at least tried to help yourself I do not mind giving a hand. Simply sticking your hand out and saying give me this, give me that, that strategy does not work so well around here.

Good luck!

[roundhouse]

Here is what i put together after doing research most of the night. Still have some questions. Just wanting to do it correctly.

Cycle

Week 1-10 500mg/wk Test E
Week 1-4 1ml/50mg Ana-50

PCT starting 14 days after last injection

Week 13-16 40/40/20/20mg/day Nolvadex
Week 13-16 100/100/50/50mg/day Clomid

HCG
Week 11-14 250 IUS 2-3 times a week. Or should i run this through the cycle at low dosage and not run it into the PCT?
Also I was wanting to possibly run letro through the cycle. Was looking at running letro 2 weeks prior to the cycle and then running it through the cycle. But im not sure if i should run letro and HCG. Or only start letro if estro problems occur. Thanks for the help.

[Flier]

Looks like a model 1´st cycle.
Consider dropping the Ana from your cycle, you will get great gains from E.
HCG...start running 2 weeks into cycle, and continue up to, but not during PCT.
Read this on HCG:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...mportant-is-it

AI: pref Aromasin, or if u can´t get, Arimidex at .25 ED during cycle......but only if u "need" it. You might not.

[Pac Man]

I don't start hcg until wk 6 or signs of shrinkage. I try to keep hcg to 6wk on.
don't run hcg into your Pct. 500mg e5d works good for me.
You've already run drol so you know what that does.
cycle looks good, you could try running your drol 50/50/100/100.

[roundhouse]

I don't start hcg until wk 6 or signs of shrinkage. I try to keep hcg to 6wk on.
don't run hcg into your Pct. 500mg e5d works good for me.
You've already run drol so you know what that does.
cycle looks good, you could try running your drol 50/50/100/100.

cool, thanks for the help. would you use letro through the cycle? or use it up till week 6 then start hcg? im happy i found the site and i now fully understand all this. i wish my buddy would have done the same. thanks for the help.

[SlimJoe]

Before you start cycle read up about HCG and PCT and then i would look into it more otherwise you will just waste your first cycle...

I agree

[roundhouse]

I agree

Thanks man, I got my PCT. Just trying to figure out the HCG.

[SlimJoe]

I don't we can discuss sources mate you not have any source you already no off

[roundhouse]

sorry, i totally typed that in worng. Brain was working, fingers wernt. Wasnt looking for a way to get HCG. edited post. thanks