What is the best????

**JusLiftIt** · 02-10-2011, 10:47 PM

Hieght: 6'4
Weight: 250
Goal weight: 285 then Cut down again.
I've been through a couple cycles before now seeking advice on what a good bulking stack would be to put on size and strength but try not to gain a ton of water retention or bloating also how long should I stay on for??? Then on my cutting stack what is the best stack, how long should I stay on that stack for???
I'm very into powerlifting and im in a non tested federation.
So any ideas fellas?

**Bertuzzi** · 02-10-2011, 10:53 PM

Welcome to the board....

How old are you?
Whats your BF? You are a pretty big guy

What kind of cycles have you ran in the past and what is your proposed cycle??

**JusLiftIt** · 02-10-2011, 11:06 PM

Thanks

I am 27
and my bf is 15 1/2%
I've ran dbol and sestanon with gh for a bulk
and for a cutting jus clen with winni and tren with test prop.

**Reed** · 02-10-2011, 11:38 PM

DO you remember your dosages?

And no one should design a cycle for you. We like to have people do and design there own as that causes them to do the necessary research to make the most out of what they are after

Take your time and start reading through the stickies. This isn't a sprint, its a marathon and you will only do yourself a serve by reading and researching.

**JusLiftIt** · 02-10-2011, 11:49 PM

It was 1cc of sest mon/thur of every week
Dbol was at 40mg a day
Gh was 40mcg a day
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The cutting stack i did was
liquid clen at 60mcgs morning and night
Winni was 1/2 cc morning and night
Then 1cc of test prop and 1cc of tren every other day

**Reed** · 02-11-2011, 12:29 AM

GH is measured in international units (iu) not mcg... head on down to the steroid profile forums. or hit up one of the starter packs here in the Q+A section. its what i did and never really needed to ask any questions cause all the answers are right here in front of you. just gotta open your eyes and know how to navigate the forum.

**JusLiftIt** · 02-11-2011, 11:50 AM

Holy crap My bad I meant 4 iu's a day sorry haha that was very very dumb of me to say. And and I love those forums you sent me to there very educational thank you for that good sir! One last question for ya. From a lot of my friends I have heard mixed reviews about igf-1 some say they would rather do gh instead and others say the opposite. In your personal opinion what you think? I've read up on it but am interested in your input on that matter cause sometimes personal experience from a vet is top quality stuff cause obviously they have been around a lot longer and well are Vet's haha.
Any input would be awesome thanks!
Oh and im just asking for future reference!

**Reed** · 02-13-2011, 10:57 PM

I have never done Igf-1 or GH so I have no personal experience of either. Im still in the beginner cycle section lol. I just put a lot of work into my diet and training foremost to get big and the drugs later.. I need to something to fall back on as I begin to progess to the elite level of bodybuilding.

**JusLiftIt** · 02-13-2011, 11:54 PM

Nice I trained with a IFBB Pro bodybuilder before he used to be a home town hero haha he deff was always educating himself 24/7 he always said start small then take baby steps with gear, build your way almost feel your way with the gear your using thats how he learned and by asking tons of questions.