Can't expel my gear during injection

**Money** · 02-15-2011, 01:13 AM

A few times, when I am trying to give myself an injection in the glutes, I have a lot of trouble expelling my gear out of the syringe into me. No matter how much pressure that I push on the plunger, it won't move even a millimeter. This does not happen always but now in my 9th week of this cycle, has happened 3 - 4 times.
Last night, this happened again. When I finally did get it to inject, I had a lot of very hard coughing that started about a minute after I was finished kind of like when you inject a vein. However, I didn't have any more bleeding than normal.
Any thoughts.

**scobbs** · 02-15-2011, 01:47 AM

how do you inject it?

I pull to where I want it so 1cc or 2cc mark.
put into the vial.
push the plunger.
then the displaced air then fills up with juice.
get rid of air bubbles and inject.

never had any problems

**Money** · 02-15-2011, 01:57 AM

Like I said, this doesn't happen every time. It has happened a few times.
If I am doing 2cc, I make sure that I expel any air first and push the liquid
out of the needle so that the needle also is a bit lubricated. Push the needle into
myself about 3/4 of the 1 1/2" that it is and inject. Almost always never a problem
but last night, couldn't push the plunger for anything.

**amcon** · 02-15-2011, 02:09 AM

well,

what are you injecting

how big is you needle

some times it helps to move the plunger up and down a little to make sure it is not defective... i have had a few that just didnt seem to want to plung correctly.

option hit your quads eiser to inject

**Money** · 02-15-2011, 02:15 AM

I am injecting Test. Enan and Deca . My needle is 24 gauge. This is the same needle that I always use for injections when I don't have problems.
I don't want to touch my quads again. Yes, it is easier but also every single time that I have tried, I have had very painful injections that have been so bad that for a week felt like a mule kicked me in the thigh.

**amcon** · 02-15-2011, 02:20 AM

were you injecting propinate in the other injections? test e shouldnt hurt that bad...

well, pull the plunger back and forth a little to make sure it runs normal before you load the needle up with the oils, pin your shoulders then

**Money** · 02-15-2011, 02:32 AM

No, only Enan. It didn't really hurt and like I said, this is not always. Out of the entire cycle, maybe 3 - 4 times this happened.
The plunger was working normal because when I put the gear into the syringe, it moved smoothly and when I expelled any air before injection, it moved smoothly.

**amcon** · 02-15-2011, 02:36 AM

when you pull the plunger back you are exerting a ton of preasure... and the gear loads very slowly, when you expelled air you prob only move it a little tiny bit...

try moving the plunger before you load any thing in it...

**layeazy** · 02-15-2011, 02:37 AM

didn't know it was so difficult to inject i would suggest looking at the syringes your using and the needle gauge sizes...

**Money** · 02-15-2011, 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by layeazy

didn't know it was so difficult to inject i would suggest looking at the syringes your using and the needle gauge sizes...

This doesn't always happen. It has happened 3 - 4 times. I use an 18 gauge needle to load the syringe with then I switch to a 24 gauge for injection. Before injecting, I expel any air and a bit of gear to lubricate the needle.

**cro** · 02-15-2011, 05:23 AM

you have more control pinning quads.

Originally Posted by amcon

well,

what are you injecting

how big is you needle

some times it helps to move the plunger up and down a little to make sure it is not defective... i have had a few that just didnt seem to want to plung correctly.

option hit your quads eiser to inject

**Money** · 02-15-2011, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by cro

you have more control pinning quads.

I agree that because the needle is in front of me, it is easier to inject. But every single time that I have tried quads, I have really hurt myself.

**JohnnyVegas** · 02-15-2011, 10:38 PM

Do you warm it before injecting? I heard that helps. I have considered it lately as I have gone from 22g to 23g and noticed it is hard to push. I am surprised it works at all with a 24g.

**Money** · 02-15-2011, 10:45 PM

I usually hold the syringe in the palm of my hand for a few minutes before injection.

**toooosmall** · 02-16-2011, 12:29 AM

i like to run my vial under hot water, shake, for a little
i've read/heard certain places on the quad are bad, some good. i never had a prob: about the half way point from knee to hip, outer part, hitting nearly sideways, but to the upper portion of the outer quad, at maybe 30 degree angle. my sweet spot. my only spot. right now, it feels painless, 2 hours later. 25g imo is THE best.

**BUTTERYGOODNESS** · 02-16-2011, 12:39 AM

just step up and use a cannon 18g! lol jk

**JohnnyVegas** · 02-16-2011, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by BUTTERYGOODNESS

just step up and use a cannon 18g! lol jk

Hell no. I pull with an 18 and it is scary. I could never push that thing in me.

**BUTTERYGOODNESS** · 02-16-2011, 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas

Hell no. I pull with an 18 and it is scary. I could never push that thing in me.

lmao!!! i dont blame ya, ive seen em and said fvck that lol i would never do that, i dont do aas because of my age but thats a scary ass needle lol if i was ata hospital id prolly go kick a baby in the nursery(lmfao jk) before i let a nurse near me with a 18g!!!!!

**Superhero d-bolman** · 02-16-2011, 01:26 PM

do you switch different size syringes? anything past a 5ml syringe imo isn't meant for injecting and is only meant for drawing liquid out into vials or something. Plus where do you inject in the glutes it sounds like you might be injecting into the wrong place

**Far from massive** · 02-16-2011, 04:01 PM

I have had that same problem on glute shots. My problem only occured when using Monoject brand syringes, when I switched to BD syringes the problem has never recurred. I found what happens with me is that because of the contortion required to pin glutes I apply sideforce to the plunger and the Monoject brand binds worse then the BD.

Just my experience, yours may be different.

**Money** · 02-16-2011, 08:01 PM

The syringes that I use are 3cc. I am injecting on the upper outside quadrant of my glutes. In other words, if you twist your head to the side, look down, the upper 1/4 part of my glutes where you can see. I am kind of wondering if I am hitting scar tissue and can't inject. Also, once again, it isn't that I am injecting incorrectly, that I don't know what I am doing or something like that because this is only happening around the same area once in a while.

**redz** · 02-16-2011, 08:08 PM

I have had a faulty syringe before that I couldn`t inject through the shit had no hole!

**Bigjerdog** · 02-17-2011, 05:19 PM

Something that I think got overlooked from the OP was the coughing fit.

I believe that is a sign that you might have injected into a vein or vessel. Can anyone else with experience on this chime in?
I am about 90% sure I read this somewhere here on the forum. I dont knwo if that plays into why the plunger is difficult to move but be sure you aspirate beforehand so you know your not in a vessel

**Pac Man** · 02-17-2011, 05:26 PM

you should have no problem unless you have excessive scar tissue or your gear is way too cold.
Heat it up with a blow dryer till all your gear mixes evenly, you'll see it start to separate at first than mix it up. Once its nice and warm try injecting.
I use 25 or 27g IM needles to inj. I can shoot test eq and tren np.

**Money** · 02-21-2011, 06:58 PM

It Happened Again!!!!

Last night, I was trying to inject my right glute with Test. Enan and Deca and couldn't get the gear to come out of the syringe. No matter how much pressure I put on the plunger, it wouldn't budge.

Mind you, before the injection, I moved the plunger with absolutely no problem to get rid of any air near the needle, to fill the needle with gear and so that some gear came out and lubricated the outside of the needle. I pulled the needle out of my glute, moved it about an inch and then was able to expel the gear with no problem whatsoever.

This is really getting to me why this happens. I am really wondering if I am injecting into some scar tissue and it is just too solid to allow the liquid to come out. I just don't get it.