First cycle pct question

**hapkidoan** · 02-17-2011, 12:15 PM

Hello everyone. First off I will get this out of the way:

Stats:
Height: 5'9
weight: 195
bf %: 15ish
age: 24
medical alerts:diabetic
experience: 8 years training, new to gear
diet example: breakfast 1: 1 scoop whey in milk and a piece of fruit
breakfast 2: 3 whole eggs, 5 egg whites, 2 pieces whole wheat toast
snack: 1 cup cottage cheese
lunch: 4oz ham, 2 slice cheese on whole wheat, 2 tbsn peanut butter
pre snack: 1 scoop whey in water, 5g creatine, piece of fruit
post: 1 scoop whey, 1 scoop casein, 6 tbsn wheat germ
dinner: 8 oz chicken, greenbeans, brown rice
before bed: 1 scoop casein protien

Looking to run my first cycle, test prop, 125mg eod is what I had in mind, just looking to do a short 4-6 week cycle to test how my body reacts. what should I use during and after to prevent sides? was thinkin nolva 80mg day after last injection, then 40mg for a week after, then 20mg next week, then 10mg for 1 week. Thoughts? I have no idea what im doing so advice is helpful.

**eyepoker** · 02-17-2011, 12:31 PM

There is some good info in the pct section of the website.

**hapkidoan** · 02-17-2011, 01:10 PM

yeah I spent a while on there but couldnt find anything about running a short cycle of just test prop. Maybe Im not looking in the right places. Should I run anything during my cycle or just after since it is so short?

**warren916** · 02-17-2011, 01:30 PM

80mg Nolva is way too high..

DO NOT STACK ARIMIDEX and NOLVA...

As Nolvadex greatly reduces the blood concentration levels of Arimidex.

Estrogen is good, as you know..

Start with nothing, just test, see how you react.

If you start to feel any signs of Gyno start with 20mg of nolvadex. If sides continue stack that with Aromasin 12.5-25mg.

If worse comes to worse drop everything and use Letro, but warning, you drop your estrogen that much, your cholesterol is gonna rocket up, and your heart will be at risk.

PCT Aromasin and Nolvadex or Clomid.

**Fetch** · 02-17-2011, 01:58 PM

I'm a fan of Arimidex on cycle. Very small doses if you start to get signs of gyno. Also, I'd stick with Test Enanthate or Cypionate for your first cycle. Virgin muscle isn't fun to pin eod, especially prop.

Edit: Nolva and Clomid is fine for a PCT.

**MBMETC** · 02-17-2011, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by hapkidoan

Hello everyone. First off I will get this out of the way:

Stats:
Height: 5'9
weight: 195
bf %: 15ish
age: 24
medical alerts:diabetic
experience: 8 years training, new to gear
diet example: breakfast 1: 1 scoop whey in milk and a piece of fruit
breakfast 2: 3 whole eggs, 5 egg whites, 2 pieces whole wheat toast
snack: 1 cup cottage cheese
lunch: 4oz ham, 2 slice cheese on whole wheat, 2 tbsn peanut butter
pre snack: 1 scoop whey in water, 5g creatine, piece of fruit
post: 1 scoop whey, 1 scoop casein, 6 tbsn wheat germ
dinner: 8 oz chicken, greenbeans, brown rice
before bed: 1 scoop casein protien

Looking to run my first cycle, test prop, 125mg eod is what I had in mind, just looking to do a short 4-6 week cycle to test how my body reacts. what should I use during and after to prevent sides? was thinkin nolva 80mg day after last injection, then 40mg for a week after, then 20mg next week, then 10mg for 1 week. Thoughts? I have no idea what im doing so advice is helpful.

im feeling charitable so here you go
if you want to run prop on your first go thats fine just keep in mind it can be painfull. i would also do 6 weeks minimum.
you can go to the top of the page AR-R and order an aromitose inhibitor (l-dex) and your serms for pct clomid and tomoxifin
you can run the ai l-dex all through your cycle at 25mgs ed although it is not neccasery you can wait to see if you get sides. but i like to play it safe and run it.
pct 3 days after last pin
clomid 100/100/50/50- mgs ed for 4 weeks
tomox 40/40/20/20

**hapkidoan** · 02-18-2011, 02:50 AM

Thank you everyone fot the replies. As far as during the cycle, I will wait to see if I get symptoms, since I am trying to gauge my body's sensitivity and reaction to gear.

Originally Posted by MBMETC

pct 3 days after last pin
clomid 100/100/50/50- mgs ed for 4 weeks
tomox 40/40/20/20

I think I am going to do this for pct. Any other thoughts?

**Dunk** · 02-18-2011, 02:56 AM

Originally Posted by warren916

80mg Nolva is way too high..

DO NOT STACK ARIMIDEX and NOLVA...

As Nolvadex greatly reduces the blood concentration levels of Arimidex.

Estrogen is good, as you know..

Start with nothing, just test, see how you react.

If you start to feel any signs of Gyno start with 20mg of nolvadex. If sides continue stack that with Aromasin 12.5-25mg.

If worse comes to worse drop everything and use Letro, but warning, you drop your estrogen that much, your cholesterol is gonna rocket up, and your heart will be at risk.

PCT Aromasin and Nolvadex or Clomid.

Thanks for sharing this- can anyone else confirm? I am reading a lot about using Ldex and HCG while on test, adding Nolva at 20 mg per day to combat sides should they arise- what you are suggesting contradicts some info out there.