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  1. 02-20-2011, 06:56 PM #1
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    New to steroids - please help.

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  2. 02-20-2011, 07:00 PM #2
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    steroids wont help you right now ,i see another good old wistrol for fat loss line ,its totaly untrue that winstrol will aid fat loss ,its a muscle hardner and it is best used at a very low body fat or its useless,all you need at this point is cardio and a good diet.
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  3. 02-20-2011, 07:06 PM #3
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  4. 02-20-2011, 07:10 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by hutch5831 View Post
    Thanks for your reply. Why won't steroids help me right now? I'm not at all saying you are wrong, I'm just trying to learn.
    haveing a high body fat shows your diet is off budy ,now useing steroid with a high body fat will lead to a greater risk of estrogen related sites (gyno/bloat/high blood preasure) also what ever gains you will make will be lost as your diet will not be upto par with what it takes to hold the extra lbs you gained ..(if any)
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  5. 02-20-2011, 07:12 PM #5
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  6. 02-20-2011, 07:13 PM #6
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    Diet is the key then training then steroids when you have these two mastered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hutch5831 View Post
    Sounds good. Thanks for the help. Would you recommend any thermogenics or are they just a waste?
    you can get liquid clen from ar-r .com in the top right banner.. 120mcg per day 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.. it will work wonders in conjunction to a good diet and cardio
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  8. 02-20-2011, 08:37 PM #8
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    yes exact same
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  10. 02-20-2011, 08:48 PM #10
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    no.. i do not recommend t3 to anyone.. it is a very powerful hormone and has the possibility of causing your thyroid to permanently shut down.. an unnecessary risk for anyone who is not competing.. keto clen stack is fine.. and if you do stack it with keto than you do not need to cycle 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.. but should not run it for more than 6 weeks total.
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  12. 02-20-2011, 08:55 PM #12
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    i personally dont recommend clen , its never done anymore for me than when not using it whilst cutting bf and isnt good for the heart
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    One find a new friend.You dont need winny.AAS is not for losing weight.Jenny Creig is.Go to the diet section.Lose some bf.Then hit the gym hard.
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