Cycled too long addicted

**kensho** · 02-21-2011, 04:22 AM

im looking for some advice for a friend of mine{ not me ]for real he started a cycle of stust at the same time i did last aug i went off on time he is still on,28 weeks ive told him what i know that can go wrong,but he says he hasnt gotten any sides and feels fine i told him to get off and on tamox and hcg and hope his boys start producing test again,but i think hes addicted what else can happen at this length of use what should i do here any advice thanks

**cro** · 02-21-2011, 05:13 AM

bro how old is he . this sound like hes going to need get off and start pct in 2 weeks i think ,then after pct get blood work and see if he is going to be able to jumpstart natty test ,or hes going to be on trt 4 life. this is careless ..

Originally Posted by kensho;5536***

im looking for some advice for a friend of mine{ not me ]for real he started a cycle of stust at the same time i did last aug i went off on time he is still on,28 weeks ive told him what i know that can go wrong,but he says he hasnt gotten any sides and feels fine i told him to get off and on tamox and hcg and hope his boys start producing test again,but i think hes addicted what else can happen at this length of use what should i do here any advice thanks

**kensho** · 02-21-2011, 05:46 AM

he is 35,he has an addictive trait and was ounce hooked on drugs as well,what else can i do to help him what kind of pct should he run

**kensho** · 02-21-2011, 06:04 AM

I told him to run tamox ar and hcg 2 weeks after his last shot but he only has tamox and i have never used hcg or do i know where toget it,i told him to just go see a doctor but hes parinoid,please any help any one

**j4ever41** · 02-21-2011, 06:06 AM

How many MGs per week has he been running?

**kensho** · 02-21-2011, 06:25 AM

he was using 700-900 mgs stust a week not sure witch i know he started at 600 like me,do you think tamox and clomid will be enought or should he get some hcg

**marcus300** · 02-21-2011, 06:28 AM

He needs to come off and run an aggressive pct and wait 2-3 months and get bloodwork done, see what damage he may have done.

**kensho** · 02-21-2011, 06:32 AM

ok can you give me an example of a aggressive pct

**marcus300** · 02-21-2011, 06:33 AM

check out swiftos pct thread, it starts with his recommendations to mild to aggressive.

**warlord_wang** · 02-21-2011, 06:37 AM

buy some hcg ,hmg,clomid,tamox run it for at least 6 weeks. Combination of Hcg & Hmg should be able to bring his boys backs

**kensho** · 02-21-2011, 06:38 AM

thank you for your help ive learned my noledge is not up to parr to deal with this.as for me i do have another question can you get hcg from ar or where would i go

**kensho** · 02-21-2011, 06:40 AM

ok what is hmg ,feeling prety stupid here ,and i thought i new somthing

**Matt** · 02-21-2011, 06:40 AM

No ar-r doesnt sell hcg ...

**kensho** · 02-21-2011, 06:57 AM

ok so how long should he take the hcg and how much,im figuring clomid 25-50 ed and tamox 20 -40ed would this be right

**warlord_wang** · 02-21-2011, 07:21 AM

HMG(Human Menopausal Gonadotropin) look it up. Shit is stupid expensive but basically 75iu is the same price of 5000iu of hcg

**Flier** · 02-21-2011, 08:35 AM

Spend a couple of hours here. Read front to back. By the time u´re done, u´ll have a PHD in PCT.
Your friend is really the one who should read.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-A-with-Swifto....

**boz** · 02-21-2011, 08:45 AM

Wow 28 weeks, he better of be saying his prays at night to. It is careless, although I can have an addictive persona to so I am not one to talk. 28 weeks is just ludicrous.

Try and knock some sense into him before its to late =\

**higgy** · 02-21-2011, 08:48 AM

^^^^ Yes kensho read. Cause it seems like neither you or your friend know what you're doing.

**army_cobra** · 02-21-2011, 10:23 AM

Find his stash and get rid of it and lock him in a room.

If he was addicted to drugs at one time this will be the only way to get him off of it. People like that just will not listen, he might tell you he stopped but really do you spend every second with him.

Trying to get him do a PCT is the smart thing to do but can you actually get him to do it?

Kinda looks like a loosing battle to me unless he actually takes your advice.