Cycle for a beginner

**rydog** · 03-06-2003, 09:08 PM

I am thinking of starting to do injectables. i did do some d-ball last spring just to get some size. I am now looking to compete. I am 6'0 210lbs around 12-13%body fat. Now I want to take Sust, Deca , and D-ball. What would be a good stack? how many weeks? Would I also need clomid or Nolvadex ? any help would be greatly appreciated?

**big swoll** · 03-06-2003, 09:33 PM

i think before you start a cycle you should do a lil more research...how old are you...but if you are thinking of taking those drugs i would take them like this:

Weeks 1-10
Sus 500mg ew
Deca 400mg ew
Weeks 1-4
Dbol 30mg ed

also keep clomid and nolva on hand

**Cock Diesel155** · 03-06-2003, 11:32 PM

Big Swoll is on the $$

**Jenseno9** · 03-07-2003, 12:02 AM

inject the sus eod. and most people think sus is best at 750mg week.

**Warrior** · 03-07-2003, 01:25 AM

Do a single ester testosterone until you are comfortable running higher doses - if you get to that point, then use Sust250.

Weeks 1-5, Dbol 30mg/ED
Weeks 1-10, Deca 400mg/wk
Weeks 1-10, Test Enanthate 500mg/wk

You should keep Nolva on hand - but the chance of running into estro build up on this is pretty low. IMO - Clomid is best for post cycle. Eat clean with lots of protein rich foods - and keep your skin moisturized cuz you will gain water and size on this stack... and stretch marks are likely.

**FedSki** · 03-07-2003, 03:08 AM

Originally posted by big swoll
i think before you start a cycle you should do a lil more research...how old are you...but if you are thinking of taking those drugs i would take them like this:

Weeks 1-10
Sus 500mg ew
Deca 400mg ew
Weeks 1-4
Dbol 30mg ed

also keep clomid and nolva on hand

This is basically the same as my current cycle. This is my third cycle - my first two were pretty useless dbol only cycles.

I'd go with this cycle. Personally I wouldn't inject more than 500mg sust each week but if you can inject 150mg every other day to maximise the effectiveness of the short term esters. If not don't worry about it too much.

**BIG-G** · 03-07-2003, 03:19 AM

yeah, the sust man is back!! Incognito as drenegade, the man put 275 lb up TWICE!!! SUSTMAN RULES!!

**FedSki** · 03-07-2003, 03:54 AM

Originally posted by dickrenegade
and you call yourself a juicer. shame on you. shoot that sust like there's no tomorrow. 250mg EOD!! worked wonders for me.
dick

does that mean i'm not in the gang anymore?

**web03** · 03-07-2003, 09:52 AM

IMO 750mg/w for a beginner if pretty high. I'd run 500 and you'll be satisfied with the results...web

**mammoth** · 03-07-2003, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by BIG-G
yeah, the sust man is back!! Incognito as drenegade, the man put 275 lb up TWICE!!! SUSTMAN RULES!!

Hmmph! Talk about hijacking threads! j/k

I definitely agree with Dick! Do a search on frontloading sust. If I could afford it I would personally run my cycle like this:

weeks 1-4 1000mg Sust/week 4 shots per week of 250 to keep bl even
weeks 5-10 500mg Sust/week 2 shots per week of 250
weeks 4-10 dbol 30mg/day
weeks 1-10 Deca 400mg/week 2 shots per week of 200

follow up with anti-e's & clen <--personal preference!

Now this of course is my own personal preference based on how I respond to these certain drugs. Everyone is usually different. Take everyones advice and go with the most common approach. Just my .02!