couple of quick questions

**dips** · 02-22-2011, 08:37 PM

stats:
age:25
ht:5'6
wt:148 (starting) 160 (now, in my 5th week) if my weight seemed a bit low to start it was intentional. i can easily eat my way to 160 in no time, i just liked being lighter bc i tend to feel better sub 155. reason for cycling was to break strength plateaus.
bf:8-10%
diet: eat pretty healthy just as a life style, however ive upped my protein to 2x my body wt instead of the 1.5 g i typically do.
training exp:about 12 yrs
cycle exp: little to none, took 200 mg of deca (i think) for 4 or 5 weeks when i was in high school that my buddy stole from the vets office.

if my weight seemed a bit low to start it was intentional. i can easily eat my way to 160 in no time, i just liked being lighter bc i tend to feel better sub 155. reason for cycling was to break strength plateaus.anyways,

cycle: test 400 at 400 mg/week for 12 weeks
pct: nolva weeks 14-18 at 20/20/20/20

questions: should i cut my cycle down to 10 weeks, since it is my first one?

will nolva be enough by itself for pct?

can i expect to put on anymore weight or is most of the weight gain over? im not opposed to being heavier, just would like to know what to expect.

**SomeRandomGuy** · 02-22-2011, 08:44 PM

Start nolvadex out at 50, go 50/50/20/20. I run both Nolvadex and Clomid, but just Nolvadex should be fine. Is the test being used test enanthate ? If so, a 10 week cycle is going to be kinda disappointing. It takes about 3-4-5 weeks for you to start getting the effects from the Test, and then you'll only have 5 more weeks till you have to stop. I mean it's fine I guess, but I'd do 12 weeks.

With your body weight, you aren't eating enough. I guess you are only 5'6" though, I don't know. I've always been way over 200lbs. Never had a problem gaining cause I love to eat

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Oh you know what? I hope I don't get flamed for this, but you want size? Kickstart your cycle with some Dianabol . That'll give you some size for sure. I know it doesn't last, but it would be a nice transition into the test e. Stuff works like magic for me. Only takes about a week, and I start feeling it. Ultra strength.

**MACHINE5150** · 02-22-2011, 08:45 PM

you can expect to put on a bit more wait.. 12 weeks is fine for first cycle...nolvadex alone is not the greatest PCT but it is better than nothing, most like to add a bit of clomid as well, you can buy it from ar-r .com on banner in top right corner of your screen. if you can get your hands on some HCG and do that at like 5000iu every 5th day, weeks 13 & 14 that would help too.

**bjpennnn** · 02-22-2011, 08:47 PM

You should of posted this all before you started. I would of advised you not to cycle yet. I would of told you to go read and educate yourself on steroids and cycling. Check out the link.

Test Beginner Cycle Guide
Written by Phate
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

**MACHINE5150** · 02-22-2011, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by SomeRandomGuy

Start nolvadex out at 50, go 50/50/20/20. I run both Nolvadex and Clomid, but just Nolvadex should be fine. Is the test being used test enanthate ? If so, a 10 week cycle is going to be kinda disappointing. It takes about 3-4-5 weeks for you to start getting the effects from the Test, and then you'll only have 5 more weeks till you have to stop. I mean it's fine I guess, but I'd do 12 weeks.

With your body weight, you aren't eating enough. I guess you are only 5'6" though, I don't know. I've always been way over 200lbs. Never had a problem gaining cause I love to eat

.

Oh you know what? I hope I don't get flamed for this, but you want size? Kickstart your cycle with some Dianabol. That'll give you some size for sure. I know it doesn't last, but it would be a nice transition into the test e. Stuff works like magic for me. Only takes about a week, and I start feeling it. Ultra strength.

did you even bother reading his post???? he IS doing 12 weeks...

Nolvadex at 40/40/20/20 is fine.. i have also seen 20mg for 5 weeks..

also he is already in week 5, kick starting with Dbol is a bit too late.

**dips** · 02-22-2011, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by bjpennnn

You should of posted this all before you started. I would of advised you not to cycle yet. I would of told you to go read and educate yourself on steroids and cycling. Check out the link.

Test Beginner Cycle Guide
Written by Phate
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

and why would you advise that?

**dips** · 02-22-2011, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by MACHINE5150

you can expect to put on a bit more wait.. 12 weeks is fine for first cycle...nolvadex alone is not the greatest PCT but it is better than nothing, most like to add a bit of clomid as well, you can buy it from ar-r.com on banner in top right corner of your screen. if you can get your hands on some HCG and do that at like 5000iu every 5th day, weeks 13 & 14 that would help too.

thanks man, will def add the clomid to my pct.

**bjpennnn** · 02-22-2011, 08:56 PM

because you started out at 5-6 148. You could of made the gains you are making off this cycle naturally and not risked any health chances and saved your self some cash. I am also 5-6 i know the weight gain can be done.

**dips** · 02-22-2011, 08:58 PM

test p: 25mgs
test c: 187mgs
test e: 188mgs

**SomeRandomGuy** · 02-22-2011, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by MACHINE5150

did you even bother reading his post???? he IS doing 12 weeks...

Well he writes;

Originally Posted by dips

questions: should i cut my cycle down to 10 weeks, since it is my first one?

But yes, I failed to notice that he's in his 5th week. Nm on the dianabol .

Originally Posted by MACHINE5150

Nolvadex at 40/40/20/20 is fine.. i have also seen 20mg for 5 weeks..

I guess it might work, I have no idea, just stating what I've read to be optimal.

**dips** · 02-22-2011, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by bjpennnn

because you started out at 5-6 148. You could of made the gains you are making off this cycle naturally and not risked any health chances and saved your self some cash. I am also 5-6 i know the weight gain can be done.

i was around 165ish for about 2 years, with my bf between 10-14%. with this cycle my main goal was to add strength, i knew that weight gain would come also but i am trying to keep it to a min bc i feel that my body functions better (ie:energy, joints, mood) below 155. i was trying to find a balance where i could maximize strength gains and minimize weight gain. ive been plateaued for over a year now, just trying to break through it.

**SomeRandomGuy** · 02-22-2011, 09:09 PM

What about oxandrolone (anavar )? Strength gains with little size gain.

**dips** · 02-22-2011, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by SomeRandomGuy

What about oxandrolone (anavar)? Strength gains with little size gain.

i will keep that in mind if i decide to run again (which i prob will, lol). i just went with the test bc everything i read said that you should run test on your first cycle to see how your body reacts. but you are right, if i would have posted before i started i would have gotten more feedback for the correct cycle.thanks guy!