warming gear.

[nelly]

How do u guys warm up your gear, so its easier to draw with a smaller pin?

[xxblazenlowxx]

Well I draw with an 18g then put on my 23g and put in a cup of hot water untill Its warm. Maybe put the whole vial in a cup of hot water?

[nelly]

thanks. makes sense putting in cup of warm water. I take it there is no harm in injecting warm fluid?

[pebble]

First off I am new to this this, but here is what I do:

Boil water (for my heating pack - used post injection) and take a little of that and toss it into a shot glass. Drop in my vial and let it sit for 3-5 mins. Draw than inject (with proper sanitational procedures occurring). After wards I toss on the heating pack for a little to encourage diffusion and dissipation of the substance.

[Far from massive]

Yep I agree with the above, I simply take a pot and fill with hot water to around 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch depending on the amount of AAS in the vial. Then I place the pot on a burner on high and sit the bottle in the pan about the time the vial starts making a clinkety clinkety sound from dancing around due to the air bubbling out from underneath it I remove it. At this point the AAS is at around 150° by the time I wipe off the top of the vial with an alky pad and let it dry suck up my shot and switch pins and clean my injection site the AAS in the syringe is down to around 105°-110° and is fine for injection.

PS there is no reason to put a vent pin in the vial it will get nowhere near hot enough to have to worry about boiling of any of the ingrediants within, if you don't believe this take an insulin pin and stick it in the vial and heat in boiling water for a couple of minutes and see if the plunger moves in the insulin pin. Also while you can draw with an 18g pin if you heat the vial as said above its not too much trouble to draw with a 22,23 or even a 25g pin. I would use a 22 at the largest to keep from damaging the stopper in the vial, myself I just use a 25 since that way I only have to order one size needle.

[Pac Man]

I don't like getting my gear wet. I draw with 21g and inj with 27. I blowdry once in the syringe to help it go through

[BIG NICE]

This is a novice type of question, but is it okay to boil water and then place your vial in it to let it warm up? Like, if you have a 20ml bottle, you can get 20 injections at 250mg each. You would be heating the gear 20 different times and then letting it cool down. Can you warm the gear like this, or are you guys talking about heating only single shot vials? Novice question, but I like to ask everything specifically, which ensures I'll be doing it properly.

PS. I am thinking of drawing and injecting with a 23 or 25 gauge, just for the sake of not buying more than one size pin. Would it really be necessary to heat the gear if using a 23 g? Thanks.

[eGGz]

PS. I am thinking of drawing and injecting with a 23 or 25 gauge, just for the sake of not buying more than one size pin. Would it really be necessary to heat the gear if using a 23 g? Thanks.

You don't want to draw and inject with the same pin.
1. Drawing dulls the needle.
2. Pins are really cheap.

[LeroyB]

You don't want to draw and inject with the same pin.
1. Drawing dulls the needle.
2. Pins are really cheap.

+1
and pinning with a 27 must take forever.....

[Pac Man]

It takes a little time but worth it, no post inj pain or scar tissue build up.
always pin dif needle and smaller than your drawing needle. A dull pin sucks but a piece of rubber stopper can kill you in an extreme case. Only know of one guy who's died from that but that's one too many for such a cheap and easy step.

[Noles12]

I never warm my gear. I did my first cycle but never really noticed a difference.

One thing i am going to change is the size of my draw needle after this cycle. A vial with a cheap stopper doesnt last with an 18 g needle. I have to filter the last 4 ml of gear in it later because i can see a piece of stopper floating around

[Far from massive]

Heating the gear does not seem to hurt it, now of course I don't heat the gear to 212° either. Putting it into a pot with 1/2 of hot tap water on a stove top and heating it till air starts to bubble out from under the vial gets the gear to maybe 150° I use all 10ml vials so I am only heating them 10 times. The only gear I might try to heat a little less would be Test E or Tren since the both are pretty sensitive to heat but still they would probably be ok. If you heat the gear up in this fashion it really does not take that long to draw up a ML (maybe 20 seconds) through a 25g pin and saves a lot of wear and tear on the stopper.

In regard to getting the gear wet? I do not dump the bottles into a pot of water, I add 1/2" to 3/4" of water depending on how much gear is in the vial and place the vial stopper up in the pan. I have never had a vial fall over yet and once the vial has been removed I wipe the top of the vial with an alcohol pad, alcohol is very hygroscopic (soaks up water) so it affectively removes any condensation from the stopper. Getting gear wet is why I do not use a vent pin, its not needed and it only serves to put wear on the stopper and allow moisture into the vial.

As far as switching to a new needle to pin. Yes absolutely if you notice in my post I said "suck up my shot and switch pins" so I thought I was being clear about using a new pin, I just use the same size because the cost of syringe assemblies is virtually the same as separate needles so I just order a bunch of 25g by 1" 3CC BD syringes and throw away the extra syringe. By the way for anyone who has been using Terumo or other pins I would give BD a try one time for me they are well worth the extra 30% cost. Also I buy 300 at a time since to ship 300 only costs 40% more than 100 so this really cuts down on the cost.

[Tigershark]

I put the vial under my arm while I get everything else prepared.

[M302_Imola]

draw the gear into the syringe and then heat the syringe with a blow drier before injection. This is the easiest form of heating I have found.

[magicstick2003]

I've gone with letting the tap water get hot, then setting the vial in a small tupperware dish. Sometimes ill do it two times just to make sure it's warm but i've never done any boiling or anything.