Prop/NPP or Prop/Mast

[C Dub]

Stats
Age-24
Ht- 5 " 11
Weight- 187
Bf- Around 11%
1 Prev cycle - Test prop 75 mg ED WK 1-8/ PCT Nolva/Clomid wk 1-4


I want to bulk up a bit and add some mass and I'm thinking about the two I mentioned in the title. Looking for experienced users with these compounds and also looking for any other reccomendations on stacking different compounds with prop. Thanks

[MBMETC]

if your bulking imo you should be useing longer esters, whats wrong with a test e and deca cycle?

[Matt]

How many cycles have you run and how long have you been training??

[scotty51312]

If you're looking to put on mass npp and prop would be a good combo, but I'd say hold off on 19nors like NPP or deca till your third cycle. Consider an oral steroid kickstart or possibly all the way through a short prop cycle. Maybe consider anavar , or tbol. For a 2nd cycle and at your bodyweight I'm thinking you might wanna take a hard look at your diet. With a bodyfat around 11% already, lean mass for a guy your size shouldn't be a problem.

I also wouldn't use mast yet either. Mast is good to harden you up and keep you dry looking, and reported by some increases aggression so it makes it an ideal compound for cutting when you need to harden up and you're body's low on energy from a calorie deficit.

Whats your diet look like now?

[C Dub]

if your bulking imo you should be useing longer esters, whats wrong with a test e and deca cycle?

I rather go with shorter esters and have it kick in quicker and not run the cycle as long.

[C Dub]

How many cycles have you run and how long have you been training??

1 Prev cycle, Test Prop at 75 mg ED wk 1-8. I have been training on and off from 16-20, training seriously from 21- until now and have been focusing on my diet for the past year or so.

[C Dub]

If you're looking to put on mass npp and prop would be a good combo, but I'd say hold off on 19nors like NPP or deca till your third cycle. Consider an oral steroid kickstart or possibly all the way through a short prop cycle. Maybe consider anavar , or tbol. For a 2nd cycle and at your bodyweight I'm thinking you might wanna take a hard look at your diet. With a bodyfat around 11% already, lean mass for a guy your size shouldn't be a problem.

I also wouldn't use mast yet either. Mast is good to harden you up and keep you dry looking, and reported by some increases aggression so it makes it an ideal compound for cutting when you need to harden up and you're body's low on energy from a calorie deficit.

Whats your diet look like now?

I have been at mantenace, I have liked my build and didn't want to put on any more size. For the past month I have been taking in 300-400 more calories and have been slowing putting on lbm.

[scotty51312]

I have been at mantenace, I have liked my build and didn't want to put on any more size. For the past month I have been taking in 300-400 more calories and have been slowing putting on lbm.

Good to hear. If you're putting on lean mass now I wouldn't cycle till you hit a plateu after a few more lbs

[bjpennnn]

If you value your hair do not run mast.

[LeroyB]

NPP + Prop gets my vote just for the joint lubrication. Also ive never used mast.

[C Dub]

Would anyone reccomend anything else besides npp/mast?