Separating yourself from the mainstream steroid user and doing something different.

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So you spread out a normal 10-12 week cycle into a thin 20 week one? Do you want a medal for that ingenuity or something?

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[t-gunz]

i did a 16 week cyp only cycle. i like it to be honest.

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I am not really a bodybuilder, my goal is to be 90kg and lean, I do not strive to be freakishly huge.. So I try to use the minimal effective amount to achieve my goal

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Yeah it's I've put on 15 kg over the last year doin things my way so I'm pretty happy

[cro]

not the ones on this site.

you sound more like a mainstream steroid user....sorry to break it to u but most mainstream users dont know what they are doing.......

[terraj]

You sound around 18 years of age....correct?

I want you to go into your bathroom, look in the mirror, take a hard look the man looking back at you....now start uppercutting him until he falls down.

[songdog]

You got a lot of ideas.How about this one.Get your bf down where it should be.And learn respect.Bonapart is very respected member here.You might try listening.Beacuse looks like you dont have a clue on wat you are doing.

[Flier]

you sound around 18 years of age....correct?

I want you to go into your bathroom, look in the mirror, take a hard look the man looking back at you....now start uppercutting him until he falls down.

lol!!!

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24, only if it was u staring back at me

Why would the two of you be in the bathroom together?

sorry..lol...

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And I'm happy with my bodyfat where it's at for now, my plan was to gain some weight so I would not get injured by the big guys at training, 90kg is my goal and soon I'm goin back to mma 4 days a week and ill be training like a powerlifter 2 days a week

[terraj]

You are not saying anything new mate, most guys I know running cycles in the 90s were doing 16-20 weeks.

I think it is bad form to advice beginners to cycle for 23 weeks.
What blood work have you had done?
How many cycles have you done?

[Flier]

No, I get it..

But guys have done this for decades before us. Plowing the path, experimenting with their own bodies, finding out what works, and what doesen´t.
I´ve seen some posts on here like, "we are very different", "what works for u, might not work for me". True in some aspects, but for the most part, we will respond the same.
No reason to reinvent the wheel
For a first cycle, 10-12 weeks of 400mgs C, will work great for 99%. Very uncomplicated, and with the proper diet will add 20 lbs of lean meat.
If it works, which it will, why not stick with it, or up to 500mgs, for your 2´nd and 3´rd...?
I see you´re thinking of HGH....that coupled with 10 weeks of C.....kick ass.
Only one article advocates EOD. "Mainstream is 5/7 or 6/7. 5iu is high.....but many schools of thought. You will see results from 3iu. A guideline told me once, 1iu/20kg body weight..??..Dunno??...makes sense to dose in relation to bodymass if u think about it.

[LatissimusaurousRex]

LOL he keeps saying he's "open to feedback" but just keeps arguing

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LOL he keeps saying he's "open to feedback" but just keeps arguing

call it conversing lol, im not tryin to diss anyone i just get annoyed when ppl diss me and say im stupid and such

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And i really appreciate everyones comments on this post
(disses excluded lol)

[Flier]

yeah sounds reasonable, i was just thinkin EOD as it might be more cost effective, im 90kg now so id be lookin at about 4.5iu anyways.

also for the record i was not trying to be diffent when i started my cycle as much as i jus wanted to do a lower dose cycle as i hae read that the dosages have been increasing since these compounds were created mainly due to people thinking more juice will get more results, when it is really just making u build a tolerance to the juice and making u require the same or larger cycles in the future and causing more aromatisation of the compounds which causes more side effects..

this may not be the case but this is what i have and will be basing my cycles on

Well...everything u just said is correct. U will get results off of 250mgs/week, however the more experienced AAS´rs here say that you will be happier with 350, (with 500 being the absolute max for a first cycle.)
The length of your proposed cycle makes no sense as your gains will taper off after 8-10 weeks, and shutting down your HPTA for more than 12 weeks is exposing yourself to potential side effects which will make Gyno a desirable exchange

Off topic....re Gyno. Really don´t know what all the guys are so worried about. I simply LOVE tits. And if I had a pair myself.....I would probably never get out of the house..

[DKZ]

What do u mean mate? Getting blood work done is easy in Australia. Go to your doctor and tell them your planning on using testosterone, they take your bloods on the spot!

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LOL titties

if i use hcg on cycle will my HPTA still be shut down?
or is its similar action to lutenising hormone different to HPTA shutdown?

HCG will do absolutely nothing to prevent HPTA shutdown.

HCG is mimicking the effects of the LH hormone on your Testies, so the leudic cells does not shring, hence making your PCT easier, since your factory never shut down.

But do this...
Set off 2 hours of your evening, and read through this whole thread. You will graduate with a PHD in PCT and HCG.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-A-with-Swifto....

[Flier]

ill give it a shot, i went down to the medical centre and told the doc i was on tthe juice and said i was getting tender niples to ttry get some anti e's and he pretty much kicked me out of door.

i will try get bloodwork done though im just noot intersted in paying through the roof to see an anti ageing doc or a doc/natoropath

Dunno the rules down under, but I could never go get tested while on Juice in my country due to the record keeping. Don´t screw yourself, but do what is necessary if there is a health concern.

[powerliftmike]

I would actually recommend a long cycle for deca. hoping it wasnt only at 125mg/wk tho? And one week of 50mg clomid ? What did 10mg/dy of anavar do? Not a fan of those peptides but if they work for you go for it and leave some good feedback of them on the forums to help others.

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[FireGuy]

I am not really a bodybuilder, my goal is to be 90kg and lean, I do not strive to be freakishly huge.. So I try to use the minimal effective amount to achieve my goal

If this is the case why are you even dabbling in AAS?

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love it!!!!!

im not surprised , again 8 week dbol cycles are mainstream , il have to explain more , bodybuilders arnt mainstream , and most cycle info people give here are from a bodybuilders point of view , and bb's go for the most effective cycles ....were as mainstream users whom are more like security guards/jocks/criminals/laborers/the weak etc are incredibly uneducated , and commonly do these cycles , a lot of people are worried about injecting something into them so they decide to take extremely toxic orals stand alone. i actually had a guy at my gym criticize me for being "too big" and that when i'm older my muscle will "turn to fat" and i'l have "erectile dysfunction" and it will shrink my "package"....i heard about it and ironically he asked me a few weeks later if i could help him find some "d-bol"...he said he wanted to do a dbol only cycle.....now the reason thats funny is because all the side effects he said id get....are common with oral only cycles , so naturally , i helped him find some really cheap orals, and i gave him some"good" advice , about dosages for best results (100mcg a day) for 8 weeks , no need to run a pct either i said

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[number twelve]

I am not really a bodybuilder, my goal is to be 90kg and lean, I do not strive to be freakishly huge.. So I try to use the minimal effective amount to achieve my goal

all that stuff u listed is not the minimal amount. could have just done a 15 week test cycle @ 500 mg and been done with it. would have been better off than putting all that other stuff in u

[number twelve]

after reading a few of your posts, sounds like u think u know whats best for you. so instead of pretending to ask for advice, you educate us. post some pics, your gains, diet etc. maybe we can learn from you bro

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