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02-27-2011, 02:11 AM #1Associate Member
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Separating yourself from the mainstream steroid user and doing something different.
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02-27-2011, 02:21 AM #2
So you spread out a normal 10-12 week cycle into a thin 20 week one? Do you want a medal for that ingenuity or something?
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02-27-2011, 02:57 AM #4
i did a 16 week cyp only cycle. i like it to be honest.
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I am not really a bodybuilder, my goal is to be 90kg and lean, I do not strive to be freakishly huge.. So I try to use the minimal effective amount to achieve my goal
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Yeah it's I've put on 15 kg over the last year doin things my way so I'm pretty happy
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02-27-2011, 06:04 AM #9
You sound around 18 years of age....correct?
I want you to go into your bathroom, look in the mirror, take a hard look the man looking back at you....now start uppercutting him until he falls down.
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02-27-2011, 07:03 AM #10
You got a lot of ideas.How about this one.Get your bf down where it should be.And learn respect.Bonapart is very respected member here.You might try listening.Beacuse looks like you dont have a clue on wat you are doing.
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And I'm happy with my bodyfat where it's at for now, my plan was to gain some weight so I would not get injured by the big guys at training, 90kg is my goal and soon I'm goin back to mma 4 days a week and ill be training like a powerlifter 2 days a week
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02-27-2011, 08:26 AM #18
You are not saying anything new mate, most guys I know running cycles in the 90s were doing 16-20 weeks.
I think it is bad form to advice beginners to cycle for 23 weeks.
What blood work have you had done?
How many cycles have you done?
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02-27-2011, 08:31 AM #19
No, I get it..
But guys have done this for decades before us. Plowing the path, experimenting with their own bodies, finding out what works, and what doesenīt.
Iīve seen some posts on here like, "we are very different", "what works for u, might not work for me". True in some aspects, but for the most part, we will respond the same.
No reason to reinvent the wheel
For a first cycle, 10-12 weeks of 400mgs C, will work great for 99%. Very uncomplicated, and with the proper diet will add 20 lbs of lean meat.
If it works, which it will, why not stick with it, or up to 500mgs, for your 2īnd and 3īrd...?
I see youīre thinking of HGH....that coupled with 10 weeks of C.....kick ass.
Only one article advocates EOD. "Mainstream is 5/7 or 6/7. 5iu is high.....but many schools of thought. You will see results from 3iu. A guideline told me once, 1iu/20kg body weight..??..Dunno??...makes sense to dose in relation to bodymass if u think about it.
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LOL he keeps saying he's "open to feedback" but just keeps arguing
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And i really appreciate everyones comments on this post
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02-27-2011, 09:18 AM #25
Well...everything u just said is correct. U will get results off of 250mgs/week, however the more experienced AASīrs here say that you will be happier with 350, (with 500 being the absolute max for a first cycle.)
The length of your proposed cycle makes no sense as your gains will taper off after 8-10 weeks, and shutting down your HPTA for more than 12 weeks is exposing yourself to potential side effects which will make Gyno a desirable exchange
Off topic....re Gyno. Really donīt know what all the guys are so worried about. I simply LOVE tits. And if I had a pair myself.....I would probably never get out of the house..
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What do u mean mate? Getting blood work done is easy in Australia. Go to your doctor and tell them your planning on using testosterone , they take your bloods on the spot!
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02-27-2011, 09:44 AM #29
HCG will do absolutely nothing to prevent HPTA shutdown.
HCG is mimicking the effects of the LH hormone on your Testies, so the leudic cells does not shring, hence making your PCT easier, since your factory never shut down.
But do this...
Set off 2 hours of your evening, and read through this whole thread. You will graduate with a PHD in PCT and HCG.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-A-with-Swifto....
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02-27-2011, 10:07 PM #39
after reading a few of your posts, sounds like u think u know whats best for you. so instead of pretending to ask for advice, you educate us. post some pics, your gains, diet etc. maybe we can learn from you bro
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