First cycle

[mrl106]

i am starting my first cycle took along time before i decided to try it.. I have deca durabolin 300 and Winstrol 50. My questions are this, how much should i do in each does? and with the deca do i need to take a estrogen blocker or anything like that? and if so what would be a good one to take?

i was told to do the Deca for 2 or 3 weeks then stack with the winstrol i am looking to gain but also cut a good bit.. but i have researched it and have heard that the winstrol alone makes your joints sore.

i was think about 1 ml of deca once a week and not sure about the winstrol but maybe 1/2 ml twice a week.. any advice will help thanks

[SlimmerMe]

Welcome!
stats please
age
height
weight
BF%
training
goals.............THANKS!

[mrl106]

sorry.. and thank you
23, 6'0, 178 have gotten BF% in a while but would think about 17% or so.. i am not fat but have a gut and extra fat that i want to get rid of.
training currently i lift 6 days a week with a 3 day 2 muscle group rotation. i do 30 to 1 hour of cardio about every other day.
Goals looking to gain a little size nothing dramatic, but looking to cut. In all honesty the extra fat needs to go .. i know run but i run my ass off and i eat right.. just need a little something to help add more muscle and burn fat.

[biobest692]

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[manblue]

looks a bit hardcore for your first cycle, i was advised to do just test only for my first cycle

[mrl106]

Well i have been running alot.. and i am not exactly sure how high it is, but i know i am not that bad.

[eGGz]

Your proposed cycle is deca and winstrol ?
Recommend you wait. Your not educated enough to start.
Please do some research before starting a potentially disastrous cycle.

[Panamera]

Several reasons why this is a really bad idea:

You are too young! Endocrine system not fully developed yet, and you are risking shutting down HPTA permanently. Want to be on hormone replacement therapy forever?

You are too light- Put on some mass through proper training and diet.

Please post your training routine for critique- 6 days a week with 3-4 days cardio might be over training just a bit.

Please also post your diet- have a feeling if you are 17% and only 23, you could refine and reduce quite a bit through diet.

Your body fat (17%) is too high- This would indicate that not only are you too light but you don't have enough lean mass. You are risking estro related sides due to body fat being too high- get to 10-12% by training and dieting.

[jbm]

i am starting my first cycle took along time before i decided to try it.. I have deca durabolin 300 and Winstrol 50. My questions are this, how much should i do in each does? and with the deca do i need to take a estrogen blocker or anything like that? and if so what would be a good one to take?

i was told to do the Deca for 2 or 3 weeks then stack with the winstrol i am looking to gain but also cut a good bit.. but i have researched it and have heard that the winstrol alone makes your joints sore.

i was think about 1 ml of deca once a week and not sure about the winstrol but maybe 1/2 ml twice a week.. any advice will help thanks

first cycles should not be like this....

[marcus300]

Your cycle is awful and to be honest it looks like you have done zero research on first cycle,
You also dont have a foundation to start steroids, you need to learn to eat first because food will keep your gains produced from your first cycle and at this stage you dont have a diet to support any new muscles so your wasting your time,
You are also to young,
Sort your diet out, reduce your bf, research more on compounds and cycles and give yourself another 12-18months at least, best of luck