2nd cycle adivce needed.

[coffeejunky]

So far my plan is a 10 week cycle.

Week 1-4- Test prop ED 100mg
Week 1-10 Test E 400mg 2x week
Weeks 1-4 25mg Dbol ED (considering 50mg?)
Weeks 4-10 Tren Ace (possibly)

Im considering running another compound like Tren A but im not sure. If i did it would be added from weeks 4 to 10.
Also need help on what PCT to run.


PCT:

Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

VS
Liquid Torem + Liquid Clomi (not sure how to dose this PCT)

http://www.ar-r.com/research-chemica...l-35mg-ml.html
http://www.ar-r.com/research-chemica...l-60mg-ml.html


Which PCT is better?


Any big problems? Also i dont know if its possible but can someone who has knowledge on underground labs PM me. My brother made an order with a certain lab last year and it was legit, but now there are some people saying that they are now scamming and ripping people off. Just need more info as this is my source and im all set to make a purchase....

[Eazy20]

100mg prop ED is very high for only a second cycle IMO, and if you get bloated on prop, you're going to look like a balloon with that Dbol . Dont reach for tren yet.

[DaBullet]

Ya, I wouldnt start with tren just yet either. Also what are your stats, I know you have stated this will be your second cycle but would still be nice to know.
age:
weight:
height:
years training:
diet:

[coffeejunky]

100mg prop ED is very high for only a second cycle IMO, and if you get bloated on prop, you're going to look like a balloon with that Dbol. Dont reach for tren yet.

What should/can I use to combat the bloat? Test E bloated me pretty badly.

[Eazy20]

Could use a mild diuretic. However, a lot of the time when I bloat it's because of my estrogen level, so an anti-estrogen takes care of it for me.

[coffeejunky]

Ya, I wouldnt start with tren just yet either. Also what are your stats, I know you have stated this will be your second cycle but would still be nice to know.
age:
weight:
height:
years training:
diet:

age: 27
weight: 211 this morning, 15% bf
height: 6ft
years training:5
diet: 75-100g fat, 200-300 carb, 300 protein. (varies from lifting to non lifting days)

[coffeejunky]

Could use a mild diuretic. However, a lot of the time when I bloat it's because of my estrogen level, so an anti-estrogen takes care of it for me.

http://www.ar-r.com/research-chemica...ml-1mg-ml.html
That should cover the problem?

And one more very basic question regarding Needle size. The smaller the needle the less painfull but slower the injection right? Whats the smallest sized needle i can use.

[Eazy20]

That should work. And I use 23x 1 1/2" for gluts 23x1" for delts/quads. I'd still lower the prop dose. I have a good bit of cycles under my belt and I'm only running prop at 75mg EOD as a jump start to a Test E/Tren E/GHRP-6 cycle

[dosXX]

IMHO a gram of test per week (first 4 wks) is way way way too much even if this have been your 10th cycle. For a 2nd cycle I would not use tren not yet.

[MBMETC]

not looking to insult you but your asking basic questions and looking to use the most powerfull aas (tren )
imo prop and d-bol should suit you
what were your gains from your test e cycle and when did that end

[coffeejunky]

IMHO a gram of test per week (first 4 wks) is way way way too much even if this have been your 10th cycle. For a 2nd cycle I would not use tren not yet.

My first cycle was 500mg test E and i had no sides.. Im feeling adventerous and im upping the dose. If i added tren into the mix i would lower the test dosage though.


MBMETC im asking basic questions to ease my mind, wouldnt want to do anything stupid.

My test e cycle ended about 6 months ago. I went from 190 to about 225 at the peak full of water. Ended it at about 205

[MBMETC]

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Ill use this to keep track of how im feeling and how injections go..


My first pin was on halloween night.

250mg every saturday/wed
Pct is nolva only

So far ive only pinned in my quads.


I was weighing in at about 183-185 a few days before my first pin. I was eating maybe 150-200 carbs at that time finishing a cut...

Today i weight in at 204. Holding alot of water haha...


Diets in check.

Main carb sources:

Oats (i use the flavored packets lol, maple and brown sugar ftw)
white rice
milk
100% Whole wheat bread
Whole wheat pasta


Main protien sources:

Chicken breast
Myo Whey
Top sirloin
Chicken thighs
93% lean ground beef

Main far sources:
Peanut butter
Eggs



My diet differs day to day...my meal times etc. I just eat when i have time and am hungry. I usually just try to keep calories at around 3500.

When i was natty bulking i was bulking on 3200-3400 calories so im not sure how much to bump that up once the test really hits.



how did you finish a cycle 6 months ago, these are your words ^^^not mine
you need to take proper time off between cycles

[coffeejunky]

Sigh, i knew i should have just made my own account instead of posting on my brothers. That was my brothers cycle from last year.

[MBMETC]

oh that old gag....

[coffeejunky]

Gag? I said in the OP that my brother made an order last year, and that was before you called me out. Take it somewhere else. Your attempt to play detective failed.

[MBMETC]

Your just pissed because you were caught and i suppose the post where you say your 20 and not 27 was your brother also with the same exact stats as you posting.

[coffeejunky]

Heh, i dont have time to argue with ignorant little shits on a forum. Believe whatever you wish. Your the reason my brother stopped posting on this site.

Have a nice one.

[MBMETC]

im old enough to be your father, show some respect little one