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    The Silent Killer - Blood Pressure

    High Blood Pressure (Hypertension)
    High blood pressure is one of several 'risk factors' that can increase your chance of developing heart disease, a stroke, and other serious conditions. As a rule, the higher the blood pressure, the greater the risk. Treatment includes a change in lifestyle risk factors where these can be improved - losing weight if you are overweight, regular physical activity, a healthy diet, cutting back if you drink a lot of alcohol, stopping smoking, and a low salt and caffeine intake. If needed, medication can lower blood pressure.


    What is blood pressure?Blood pressure is the pressure of blood in your arteries (blood vessels). Blood pressure is measured in millimetres of mercury (mmHg). Your blood pressure is recorded as two figures. For example, 150/95 mmHg. This is said as '150 over 95'.

    The top (first) number is the systolic pressure. This is the pressure in the arteries when the heart contracts.
    The bottom (second) number is the diastolic pressure. This is the pressure in the arteries when the heart rests between each heartbeat.
    What is high blood pressure?
    High blood pressure is a blood pressure that is 140/90 mmHg or above each time it is taken. That is, it is 'sustained' at 140/90 mmHg or above. High blood pressure can be:

    Just a high systolic pressure, for example, 170/70 mmHg.
    Just a high diastolic pressure, for example, 120/104 mmHg.
    Or both, for example, 170/110 mmHg.
    However, it is not quite as simple as this. Depending on various factors, the level at which blood pressure is considered high enough to be treated with medication can vary from person to person.

    Blood pressure of 160/100 mmHg or above
    This is definitely high. All people with a blood pressure that stays at this level are usually offered medication to lower it (described later).

    Blood pressure of 140/90 mmHg or above but below 160/100 mmHg
    This is sometimes called 'mild' high blood pressure. Ideally, it should be lower than this but for many people the risk from mild high blood pressure is small, and drug treatment is not indicated. However, certain groups of people with blood pressure in this range are advised medication to lower it. These are people with:

    a high risk of developing cardiovascular diseases (see below), or
    an existing cardiovascular disease (see below), or
    diabetes, or
    damage to the heart or kidney (organ damage) due to high blood pressure.
    Blood pressure between 130/80 and 140/90 mmHg
    For most people this level is fine. However, current UK guidelines suggest that this level is too high for certain groups of people. Treatment to lower your blood pressure if it is 130/80 mmHg or higher may be considered if you:

    Have developed a complication of diabetes, especially kidney problems.
    Have had a serious cardiovascular event such as a heart attack, transient ischaemic attack (TIA) or stroke.
    Have certain chronic (ongoing) kidney diseases.
    How is high blood pressure diagnosed?
    A one-off blood pressure reading that is high does not mean that you have 'high blood pressure'. Your blood pressure varies throughout the day. It may be high for a short time if you are anxious, stressed, or have just been exercising.

    You are said to have 'high blood pressure' (hypertension) if you have several blood pressure readings that are high, and which are taken on different occasions, and when you are relaxed.


    Observation period
    If one reading is found to be high, it is usual for your doctor or nurse to advise a time of observation. This means several blood pressure checks at intervals over time. The length of the observation period varies depending on the initial reading, and if you have other health risk factors.

    For example, say a first reading was mildly high at 150/94 mmHg. If you are otherwise well, then a period of several months 'observation' may be advised. A blood pressure reading may be taken every few weeks. The observation period is also a good time to change any lifestyle factors that can reduce blood pressure (see below). If the blood pressure readings remain high after an observation period then treatment with medication may be advised, depending on your risk factors (see below).

    However, if you have diabetes, or have recently had a heart attack or stroke, you may be advised to have blood pressure checks fairly often over the next week or so. Also, treatment with medication is usually considered at an earlier stage if the readings remain high.

    Some people are given (or buy) machines to monitor blood pressure at home (home monitoring) or when they are going about doing their everyday activities (ambulatory monitoring). One reason this may be advised is because some people become anxious in medical clinics which can cause the blood pressure to rise. (This is called 'white coat' hypertension.) Home or ambulatory monitoring of blood pressure may show that the blood pressure is normal when you are relaxed.


    What causes high blood pressure?
    The cause is not known in most cases
    This is called 'essential hypertension'. The pressure in the arteries depends on how hard the heart pumps, and how much resistance there is in the arteries. It is thought that slight narrowing of the arteries increases the resistance to blood flow, which increases the blood pressure. The cause of the slight narrowing of the arteries is not clear. Various factors probably contribute.

    In some cases, high blood pressure is caused by other conditions
    It is then called 'secondary hypertension'. For example, certain kidney or hormone problems can cause high blood pressure.


    How common is high blood pressure?
    In the UK, about half of people over 65, and about 1 in 4 middle aged adults, have high blood pressure. It is less common in younger adults. Most cases are mildly high (up to 160/100 mmHg). However, at least 1 in 20 adults have blood pressure of 160/100 mmHg or above. High blood pressure is more common in people:

    With diabetes. About 3 in 10 people with Type 1 diabetes and more than half of people with Type 2 diabetes eventually develop high blood pressure.
    From African-Caribbean origin.
    From the Indian sub-continent.
    With a family history of high blood pressure.
    With certain lifestyle factors. That is, those who: are overweight, eat a lot of salt, don't eat many fruit and vegetables, don't take enough exercise, drink a lot of coffee (or other caffeine-rich drinks), or drink a lot of alcohol.
    Who should have a blood pressure check?
    High blood pressure usually causes no symptoms. You will not know if you have high blood pressure unless you have your blood pressure checked. Therefore, everyone should have regular blood pressure checks at least every 3-5 years. The check should be more often (at least once a year) in: older people, people who have had a previous high reading, people with diabetes, and people who have had a previous reading between 130/85 and 139/89 mmHg (that is, not much below the 'cut off' point for high blood pressure).


    Why is high blood pressure a problem if it causes no symptoms?
    High blood pressure is a 'risk factor' for developing a cardiovascular disease (such as a heart attack or stroke), and kidney damage, sometime in the future. If you have high blood pressure, over the years it may do some damage to your arteries and put a strain on your heart. In general, the higher your blood pressure, the greater the health risk. But, high blood pressure is just one of several possible risk factors for developing a cardiovascular disease.


    What are cardiovascular diseases?
    Cardiovascular diseases are diseases of the heart (cardiac muscle) or blood vessels (vasculature). However, in practice, when doctors use the term 'cardiovascular disease' they usually mean diseases of the heart or blood vessels that are caused by atheroma. Patches of atheroma are like small fatty lumps that develop within the inside lining of arteries (blood vessels). Atheroma is also known as 'atherosclerosis' and 'hardening of the arteries'.

    Cardiovascular diseases that can be caused by atheroma include: angina, heart attack, stroke, transient ischaemic attack (TIA), and peripheral vascular disease. In the UK, cardiovascular diseases are a major cause of poor health and the biggest cause of death.

    Risk factors for cardiovascular diseases
    Everybody has some risk of developing atheroma which may cause one or more cardiovascular diseases. However, certain 'risk factors' increase the risk. These include:

    Lifestyle risk factors that can be prevented or changed:
    Smoking.
    Lack of physical activity (a sedentary lifestyle).
    Obesity.
    An unhealthy diet.
    Excess alcohol.
    Treatable or partly treatable risk factors:
    Hypertension (high blood pressure).
    High cholesterol blood level.
    High triglyceride (fat) blood level.
    Diabetes.
    Kidney diseases that affect kidney function.
    Fixed risk factors - ones that you cannot alter:
    A strong family history. This means if you have a father or brother who developed heart disease or a stroke before they were 55, or in a mother or sister before they were 65.
    Being male.
    An early menopause in women.
    Age. The older you become, the more likely you are to develop atheroma.
    Ethnic group. For example, people who live in the UK with ancestry from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, or Sri Lanka have an increased risk.
    However, if you have a fixed risk factor, you may want to make extra effort to tackle any lifestyle risk factors that can be changed.

    Note: some risk factors are more 'risky' than others. For example, smoking and high blood pressure probably cause a greater risk to health than obesity. Also, risk factors interact. So, if you have two or more risk factors, your health risk is much more increased than if you just have one. For example, a middle aged male smoker who takes no exercise and has high blood pressure has a high risk of developing a cardiovascular disease such as a heart attack before the age of 60.

    Therefore, the benefit of lowering a high blood pressure is to reduce the risk of developing a cardiovascular disease in the future.

    For example, it is estimated that reducing a high diastolic blood pressure by 6 mmHg reduces your relative risk of having a stroke in the future by about 35-40%, and reduces your relative risk of developing heart disease by about 20-25%. Larger reductions in blood pressure provide greater benefits. (See leaflet called 'Risks of Disease - Absolute and Relative' for an explanation of relative risk. For a full discussion on exactly how much risk is reduced by lowering blood pressure, see the Hypertension Guidance produced by Clinical Knowledge Summaries.)

    Assessing (calculating) your cardiovascular health risk
    A 'risk factor calculator' is often used by doctors and nurses to predict the health risk for an individual. A score is calculated which takes into account all your risk factors such as age, sex, smoking status, blood pressure, blood cholesterol level, etc. If you want to know your 'score', see your practice nurse or GP. Current UK guidelines advise that if your score gives you a 2 in 10 risk or more of developing a cardiovascular disease within the next 10 years, then treatment is advised. Treatments may include:

    A drug to lower blood pressure if it is 140/90 mmHg or higher.
    A drug to lower your cholesterol level.
    A daily low dose of aspirin. This reduces the risk of blood clots forming in the blood vessels over patches of atheroma (which cause strokes and heart attacks).
    Where relevant, to encourage you to tackle 'lifestyle' risk factors such as smoking, lack of physical activity, diet, and weight.
    Do I need any further tests?
    If you are diagnosed as having high blood pressure then you are likely to be examined by your doctor and have some routine tests which include:

    A urine test to check if you have protein or blood in your urine.
    A blood test to check that your kidneys are working fine, and to check your cholesterol level and sugar (glucose) level.
    A heart tracing (an electrocardiogram, also called an ECG).
    The purpose of the examination and tests is to:

    Rule out (or diagnose) a 'secondary' cause of high blood pressure such as kidney disease.
    To check to see if the high blood pressure has affected the heart.
    To check for other 'risk factors' such as a high cholesterol level or diabetes.
    How can blood pressure be lowered?
    There are two ways in which blood pressure can be lowered:

    Modifications to lifestyle (weight, exercise, diet, salt, caffeine and alcohol) if any of these can be improved upon (details below).
    Medication (details below).
    Lifestyle treatments to lower high blood pressure
    Lose weight if you are overweight
    Losing some excess weight can make a big difference. Blood pressure can fall by up to 2.5/1.5 mmHg for each excess kilogram which is lost. Losing excess weight has other health benefits too.

    Regular physical activity
    If possible, aim to do some physical activity on five or more days of the week, for at least 30 minutes. For example, brisk walking, swimming, cycling, dancing, etc. Regular physical activity can lower blood pressure in addition to giving other health benefits. If you previously did little physical activity, and change to doing regular physical activity five times a week, it can reduce systolic blood pressure by 2-10 mmHg.

    Eat a healthy diet
    Briefly, this means:

    AT LEAST five portions, and ideally 7-9 portions, of a variety of fruit and vegetables per day.
    THE BULK OF MOST MEALS should be starch-based foods (such as cereals, wholegrain bread, potatoes, rice, pasta), plus fruit and vegetables.
    NOT MUCH fatty food such as fatty meats, cheeses, full-cream milk, fried food, butter, etc. Use low fat, mono-, or poly-unsaturated spreads.
    INCLUDE 2-3 portions of fish per week. At least one of which should be 'oily' such as herring, mackerel, sardines, kippers, pilchards, salmon, or fresh (not tinned) tuna.
    If you eat meat it is best to eat lean meat, or poultry such as chicken.
    If you do fry, choose a vegetable oil such as sunflower, rapeseed or olive oil.
    Low in salt.
    A healthy diet provides benefits in different ways. For example, it can lower cholesterol, help control your weight, and has plenty of vitamins, fibre, and other nutrients which help to prevent certain diseases. Some aspects of a healthy diet also directly affect blood pressure. For example, if you have a poor diet and change to a diet which is low-fat, low-salt, and high in fruit and vegetables, it can lower systolic blood pressure by up to 11 mmHg.


    Have a low salt intake
    The amount of salt that we eat can have an effect on our blood pressure. Government guidelines recommend that we should have no more than 5-6 grams of salt per day. (Most people currently have more than this.) Tips on how to reduce salt include:

    Use herbs and spices to flavour food rather than salt.
    Limit the amount of salt used in cooking, and do not add salt to food at the table.
    Choose foods labelled 'no added salt', and avoid processed foods as much as possible.
    Restrict your number of caffeine drinks
    Caffeine is thought to have a modest effect on blood pressure. It is advised that you restrict your coffee consumption (and other caffeine-rich drinks) to fewer than five cups per day.

    Drink alcohol in moderation
    A small amount of alcohol (1-2 units per day) may help to protect you from heart disease. One unit is in about half a pint of normal strength beer, or two thirds of a small glass of wine, or one small pub measure of spirits. However, too much alcohol can be harmful.

    Men should drink no more than 21 units of alcohol per week (and no more than four units in any one day).
    Women should drink no more than 14 units of alcohol per week (and no more than three units in any one day).
    Cutting back on heavy drinking improves health in various ways. It can also have a direct effect on blood pressure. For example, if you are drinking heavily, cutting back to the recommended limits can lower a high systolic blood pressure by up to 10 mmHg.

    Lifestyle - in summary
    It is estimated that dietary and exercise interventions discussed above can reduce blood pressure by at least 10 mmHg in about 1 in 4 people with high blood pressure.

    Treatment with medication
    When is drug treatment started for high blood pressure?
    Drug treatment to lower blood pressure is usually advised for:

    All people who have a blood pressure that remains at 160/100 mmHg or above after a trial of any relevant lifestyle changes.
    People with a blood pressure that remains at 140/90 mmHg or above after a trial of any relevant lifestyle changes AND who have:
    diabetes, or
    an existing cardiovascular disease, or
    a 2 in 10 risk or more of developing a cardiovascular disease within the next 10 years (as described above).
    People with a blood pressure of 130/80 mmHg or more who have certain diseases. For example, people who have certain complications from diabetes, people who have had a recent heart attack, stroke or TIA (transient ischaemic attack). Also, some people with certain chronic (ongoing) kidney diseases.
    What is the target blood pressure to aim for?
    If you are taking medication to lower high blood pressure:

    For most people who are otherwise well, the target is to reduce blood pressure to 140/90 or below.
    In some people, the target is to get the blood pressure is even lower. This generally applies to people who have diseases where very good blood pressure control is important. This includes:
    People who have a cardiovascular disease.
    People with diabetes.
    People who have a chronic kidney disease.
    Your GP or practice nurse will advise you what your target blood pressure is.


    What drugs are used to lower blood pressure?
    There are several drugs that can lower blood pressure. The one chosen depends on such things as: if you have other medical problems; if you take other medication; possible side-effects of the drug; your age; your ethnic origin; etc. Some drugs work well in some people, and not so well in others. One or two drugs may be tried before one is found to suit.

    One drug reduces high blood pressure to the target level in less than half of cases. It is common to need two or more different drugs to reduce high blood pressure to a target level. In about a third of cases, three drugs or more are needed to get blood pressure to the target level. In some cases, despite treatment, the target level is not reached. However, although to reach a target level is ideal, you will benefit from any reduction in blood pressure.

    See separate leaflet called 'Medication for High Blood Pressure' for more details.


    How long is medication needed for?
    In most cases, medication is needed for life. However, in some people whose blood pressure has been well controlled for three years or more, medication may be able to be stopped. In particular, in people who have made significant changes to lifestyle (such as lost a lot of weight, or stopped heavy drinking, etc). Your doctor can advise.

    If you stop medication, you should have regular blood pressure checks. In some cases the blood pressure remains normal. However, in others it starts to rise again. If this happens, medication can then be started again.

    Smoking and high blood pressure
    Smoking does not directly affect the level of your blood pressure. However, smoking greatly adds to your health risk if you already have high blood pressure. If you smoke, you should make every effort to stop. If you smoke and are having difficulty in stopping, then see your practice nurse for help and advice.

    Further help and information
    Blood Pressure Association
    60 Cranmer Terrace, London, SW17 0QS
    Tel: 020 8772 4994 Web: www.bpassoc.org.uk



    High Blood Pressure Foundation
    Dept of Medical Sciences, Western General Hospital, Edinburgh, EH4 2XU
    Tel: 0131 332 9211 Web: www.hbpf.org.uk



    References
    Hypertension: management of hypertension in adults in primary care, NICE Clinical guideline (June 2006)
    Hypertension, Clinical Knowledge Summaries (2007)
    Turnbull F, Neal B, Ninomiya T, et al; Effects of different regimens to lower blood pressure on major cardiovascular events in older and younger adults: meta-analysis of randomised trials. BMJ. 2008 May 17;336(7653):1121-3. Epub 2008 May 14. [abstract]
    Staessen JA, Richart T, Verdecchia P; Reducing blood pressure in people of different ages. BMJ. 2008 May 17;336(7653):1080-1. Epub 2008 May 14.
    Nelson MR, Reid CM, Krum H, et al; Predictors of normotension on withdrawal of antihypertensive drugs in elderly patients: prospective study in second Australian national blood pressure study cohort. BMJ. 2002 Oct 12;325(7368):815. [abstract]
    Aylett M, Creighton P, Jachuck S, et al; Stopping drug treatment of hypertension: experience in 18 British general practices. Br J Gen Pract. 1999 Dec;49(449):977-80. [abstract]

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    Great post Marcus.

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    nice work marcus always continuing to enhance the board.

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    Many people forget about BP but its so important for your general health, especially when your on cycle you need to keep getting it checked.

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    Since i had my scare with that shit Chinese gh i got myself a BP monitor and check myself twice weekly...
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    agreed, this and lipids(dl/ldl) are the true side effects that one should worry about but all you hear is about acne, gyno, hair loss, etc
    great post

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    Excellent post Marcus, this should be stickied for everyone to read.

    Too many people forget about blood pressure. I have renal failure and have had to deal with high blood pressure a few times. I was hospitalized once when it went up to 220/119, it felt like my head was going to explode.

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    Clen was a contributor to my high blood pressure and I felt problems with it being in the state of 160/98. It is something that is left ignored till too late so I am enjoying this post. Method I used to lower mine was 2g's of vitamin c,milk thisle, and celery seed extract. blood pressure is now in the 130's/70's and very happy with the result. Looking forward to adding Vitamin P as well. Thanks for the post Marcus

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    Wow, everyone on this forum should take advantage of reading this. Great post!!

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    Good post bro.

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    Everyone should own at home BP monitoring unit wheter a bodybuilder or just your average joe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by **** View Post
    Everyone should own at home BP monitoring unit wheter a bodybuilder or just your average joe.
    Probably taking it a little too far.

    Hypertension is really just a result of many other problems. It's why when once you have it is very hard to reverse. And in cases where medications are not righting the problem it means it is not a blood volume issue (too much fluid), but rather peripheral resistance likely due to systemic inflammation (which is linked back to pretty much all chronic diseases).

    Quote Originally Posted by 5x10 View Post
    agreed, this and lipids(dl/ldl) are the true side effects that one should worry about but all you hear is about acne, gyno, hair loss, etc
    great post
    I would be more concerned with cardiomyocyte concentric hypertrophy. That is something that is highly theorized as the risk of AAS, but just impossible to prove due to all of the other variables. Worst part about it is you don't know you have it until it’s too late. Heart failure is guaranteed to come and once you enter that it’s all downhill.

    Side note - high bp will cause cardiomyocyte dilated hypertrophy which also leads to heart failure. One of the biggest reasons why blood pressure needs to be kept in check the best it can.
    Last edited by pebble; 03-17-2011 at 06:52 PM.

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    Nice one, Marcus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrosaro View Post
    Clen was a contributor to my high blood pressure and I felt problems with it being in the state of 160/98. It is something that is left ignored till too late so I am enjoying this post. Method I used to lower mine was 2g's of vitamin c,milk thisle, and celery seed extract. blood pressure is now in the 130's/70's and very happy with the result. Looking forward to adding Vitamin P as well. Thanks for the post Marcus
    well have too try your way too lower bp if mine is high thanks

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    good post, ppl forget about the simple things which can turn into life savers.

    having your own equipment at home and checking regularly is a good idea

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    you know, the damm thing is my blood pressure monitor is in Cali, away from me. Just another thing I need sent to me.....

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    Great read bro

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    Great read Marcus. I am not familiar with the medications you should use to lower BP. I am pretty lean and dont do heavy bulk cycles with a lot of water retention, but the increase in RBC count gives me hell of rise in BP. Can you advise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miboleron View Post
    Great read Marcus. I am not familiar with the medications you should use to lower BP. I am pretty lean and dont do heavy bulk cycles with a lot of water retention, but the increase in RBC count gives me hell of rise in BP. Can you advise?
    If your experiencing high RBC then give blood and your problems will be cured, no need for meds.

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    Good stuff. BP should not be ignored & is paramount in Men's health. My TRT Dr. had me purchase a BP monitor to use at home. It's an OMRON wrist model which is pretty accurate (we tested it against office readings). He has me send him 2 week Blood Pressure Logs consisting of AM & PM readings. My pressure is now perfect/low in the morning, but I'm still averaging 135-140/80-85+ during PM hours & he wants this down even further. For meds I'm on a combination of Atacand & Chlorthalidone which seems to be working good after the latest dosing adjustment.

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    Im currently taking Benezipril an ACE inhibitor.

    ACE inhibitors are medications that slow (inhibit) the activity of the enzyme ACE, which decreases the production of angiotensin II. As a result, the blood vessels enlarge or dilate, and blood pressure is reduced.

    Its an interesting drug thats been banned in marksmen competitions.

    Seems iv actually gotten more vascular few weeks after blood stabilization.

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    Very good and informative article on blood pressure mate
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    great post, i think im gunna get a bp monitor

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    what a great post,marcus is one of the good ones.

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    Really good information

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    Stick this LMAO there is all info that you need about BP here

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    good read.

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    ACE inhibitors are banned in marksmen compitions cuz it lowers anxiety and helps focus.

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    nice post marcus.... i am getting more and more concerned with things like bloodpressure now that im about to turn 40...very informative thank you for taking the time...

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    Great info thanks!

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    when i went on test e it was prescribed by my doc.. the first thing he did was put me on a BP medication as well as a colesterol med

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    Just read the entire post, learnt quite a lot of things from it.

    Thanks for sharing this knowledge Marcus.

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    This should be stickied in the educational threads section. I would disagree though to some degree when stated "High blood pressure usually causes no symptoms.". We are all probably familiar with what it feels like when we are in a sudden heightened state of blood pressure when ingesting thermogenics, taking AAS, etc.

    I was also curious about one thing. A daily intake of aspirin was suggested as a means to control blood pressure. What affects can aspirin have for those taking anabolic steroids , and can Aspirin have a negative affect on protein synthesis?

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    I agree with bbrian

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