test prop, d-bol

[Zaf21]

hey guys quick question, is d bol a good idea for a test prop cycle, seeing as the d bol are used to kickstart a cycle, and test prop is such a short ester..

[t-gunz]

be a waste mate. just run the prop.

[marcus300]

What are your stats?

[Zaf21]

29, training 6 years, 4th cycle, 89 kilos, 14% bf

[D7M]

29, training 6 years, 4th cycle, 89 kilos, 14% bf

Height?

Previous cycles?

[Zaf21]

6ft.
1st cycle, test e @ 500 mgs per week 10 weeks
2nd, 30 mg dbol , 4 weeks, 500mgs test e 10 weeks
4th, same as 3rd
3rd sus 250 at 500mgs per week and deca 200 at 400 mgs per week

[Zaf21]

Bump

[Mackn]

hey guys quick question, is d bol a good idea for a test prop cycle, seeing as the d bol are used to kickstart a cycle, and test prop is such a short ester..

There is no reason to take dbol with prop since its a short ester and you do not need to kick start it... I guess you could frontload the prop if you wanted to

[Zaf21]

Wats best for frontloading with prop?

[Mackn]

IMO there is no need to frontload because it is a short ester.. Steroid Front loading is a process to saturate your receptors with the peak dose from week one to ensure stable blood levels instead of it taking several weeks to peak like most long esters,this is why most people dont feel the effect of a long ester until its built up substantial amount in the blood stream, the problem can be solve by front loading which is doubling the amount of mg in the first wk

[Zaf21]

thanks guys for your help. i will just stick to prop on its own at 150mg eod for 8 weeks

[Mackn]

I will be running prop at 150mg eod soon as well! Whats your pct?

[baseline_9]

If i was you i would pin the prop ED or you may get some serious PIP

As for the DBol , i ran dbol with prop for 8 weeks at a low dose (20mg ED)

IMO why would you not run it? If people only consider it good to put at the start of an enth or cyp cycle so that you feel sumat whats the point...

I have used this drug just like any other AAS...

The actuall gains from DBol are questionable, but From what i have both read Nd been told it is better to run it for a longer duration at a lower dose

Even if you just take it throughout to give you a little extra strength this is of benefit IMO.... Lifing more will stress the muscles more amd create a better environment for growth

Just my opinion, and one others....

[Zaf21]

Pip??? Pct will be standard nolva, clomid 72 hours after last shot

[baseline_9]

Post injection pain

[Zaf21]

Oh ok, thanks, so you recomend ed shots

[baseline_9]

Oh ok, thanks, so you recomend ed shots

Yes

And if our run the DBol I would run it for the duration at 20-25 mg daily

Thats what i would do