Working on planning 3rd cycle Test/Eq/Var?

**dsldsl1980** · 03-21-2011, 12:35 PM

My first 2 cycles were dbol and test and ran between 10 and 12 weeks. All my results are great, good PCT, and good diet (better on my second cycle). Now I have gained all the weight that I was hoping for and am working on my summer cut cycle which is going to start a little late. I also would like to stack a clen /t3/keto with it to assist in the fat loss. I of course will be doing a ton of cardio as well.

This is my first time complicating things a little and upping my dose.

wk 1-10 test e 500mg a week
wk 1-6 eq 400 mg a week
wk 7-4 var 50 mg ed

PCT will be the standard clomid/nolva and still have adex on hand.

Does this look like a good cutting cycle or should I go after something like prop? I'm wanting to stay away from things like winny/deca /tren as they seem very hard on MPB. Also do I need anything to kickstart this cycle? All suggestions welcome, thank you!

Age:30
Weight:195
Bf%:12-13

***FireGuy*** · 03-21-2011, 12:43 PM

I think most will tell you running EQ for 6 weeks wont do anything for you. Quite a few will tell you running it for any amount of time wont do anything for you. There are some people who like it but they usually run it much longer, say 12 weeks and at a higher dosage as well. Not sure what wk 7-4 Var means, is that supposed to be 7-14?

**dsldsl1980** · 03-21-2011, 01:08 PM

I ment 7-10
So run eq 1-10

**BJJ** · 03-21-2011, 01:33 PM

Why EQ?
What is the purpose that made you decide to use it?

Also, to cut I would use a short ester.

***FireGuy*** · 03-21-2011, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by BJJ

Why EQ?
What is the purpose that made you decide to use it?

Also, to cut I would use a short ester.

I havent seen a shorter ester have any different effect on bodyfat levels than a longer one personally.

**dsldsl1980** · 03-21-2011, 02:10 PM

I would guess the reason for it would be having no kick in time. That way I could start with something like a prop and clen /t3 right away. I certainly could always keep it simple and just do a test-e clen/t3 cut but I was hoping to add a little more.

***FireGuy*** · 03-21-2011, 02:30 PM

Again, I would argue the "kick in" time with a short ester over a long ester is grossly overated. The biggest difference is clearance time.

**BJJ** · 03-21-2011, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by FireGuy

I havent seen a shorter ester have any different effect on bodyfat levels than a longer one personally.

Of course, if you eat correctly testosterone is testosterone no matter the ester.

But I was speaking about water retention.

***FireGuy*** · 03-21-2011, 02:50 PM

^Kinda thought that was the intent of your statement but wasnt sure.

**dsldsl1980** · 03-21-2011, 04:49 PM

The more I'm reading on cutting cycles it seems that prop and var can work very well together as well.

Something like:
wk 1-12 Prop 100 eod or 50 ed
wk 6-12 var 50 ed

That look better? I would be starting Clen /T3/keto probably week 2 to give the test some time to get started.