new Aussie member 1st cycle help

[BustaDime99]

Hi guys , i posted this thread in the new members section but didnt really get many replys so i thought id chuck it out here.

Hey im a new member from Australia. ive used the forums here for a while and deceided it was time i joined up..

Im gunna run my 1st cycle in about 6 weeks(lean mass cycle) im thinking test prop beacause of the less water retention and im not too worried about pinning EOD, this is what im thinking ..

my stats are
height: 6 foot
weight: 79 kgs
bodyfat: 9-10%
years training: 4years 18 months seriously
cycle experience: none


test prop 10 weeks - 150 mg EOD (mon,wed,fri,sun,tues etc...)
PCT -

Clomid 40/40/20 Nolva 40/20/20
but when should i start this ? 7-10 days after last pin ?
also ive read that its a good idea to take HCG the whole way through a cycle 8 weeks or longer to prevent testicular shrinkage and help with retaining gains after, is this worth it ? and also what would my dosage look like ?

becasue im looking to gain lean mass im thinking for diet id look at 6 meals 4x fat/pro and 2x carb pro.. how much over maintainence calories should i go to get the most out of this cycle while not putting on fat, and what macro split? 45pro/35carb/20fat

also considering using clen while priming for this cycle for the anti catabolic effect as well as the fat loss what do you think of that idea ? ive read that "Clenbuterol can also cause a downregulation in testicular androgen receptors and in pulmonary, cardiac and central nervous system beta-adrenergic receptors possibly making steroids less effective" but how long will these effects last? is it a good idea , or not really worth risking taking away from my cycle?

my diets looking like this at the moment
meal 1: 45g pro 70g carb
4 egg whites (13.5g pro) 1 cup oatmeal (48g carb) 1 whey scoop (24g pro) blueberries (8g carb)
fishoil+ milti (3gfat)

meal 2: 45g pro 26g fat
Tuna 3/4 large tin (45 g pro) 30 almonds (20g fat) green vegies

meal 3: 45g pro 70 carb 26g fat
200g brown rice, (65g carb) 4 hard boiled eggs (15g fat) (23g pro)

post workout:25g pro whey 50g carb destrose

meal 4 post post workout: 45g pro 90g carb
200g brown rice (65g carb) kangaroo steak 200g (45 g pro) 1 banana ( 25 g carb)

meal 5: 45g pro 26g fat
200g chicken breast (62g pro) (7g fat) + green vegies,1.5 tablespoon flax (27g fat)

meal 6: 45g pro 26g fat
250g cottage cheese (10g carb) (35g pro) (5g fat), 2 tablespoons natty peanut butter (25g fat)

pro -271.5 , 1086 cals
carb- 246 , 984 cals
fat- 110 , 990 cals

i need to tweek it a bit beacuse its a little high in fats but thats basically how its looking right now.


all help and advise is greatly welcomed
thanks guys

[D7M]

Age?

[BustaDime99]

nearly 21 , i know everybody is gunna say im too young and still have a few years before i should think about steroids but ive done alot of research, made some good natural gains and i feel that im ready to run a cycle. please refrain from advising me that im too young and still havent reached my peak yet.

any help and constructive critisim is welcomed , thanks

[D7M]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ids&highlight=

[BustaDime99]

thanks mate, i have read that thread before, like i said ive done alot of research and weighed up the risks and benifits. i would appreciate it if you could please help me out with the questions ive outlined in the original post.

thanks for the adivse though!

[RaZr]

Your light at your height, you have more growing room.

[BustaDime99]

RaZr your probably right, but im really looking for helpful advise in regards to my original post, believe me when i say that i have done many hours of research and am mentally prepared for this. i know the risks involved. I value your input and would love some help

[smashingbox]

8-9% bf... Let's see pics.

[2jz_calgary]

they should rename q and a to im 20 yrs old and want to start taking steroids lol. Hold off you are too young you will end up doing more harm than good as well as losing your gains.

[ScotchGuard02]

Listen to the vets. Just because you're mentally ready now doesn't mean your body won't have problems. Its for your safety.

[BustaDime99]

okay after all the feed back im going to purspone the cycle for another year or so, but can anybody help me out now by answering the earlier questions so that i have all the problems sorted out now so i can make sure ill be good to go when the time comes? thanks guys

[syd-bloke]

Mate its not gonna hurt anyone here to give you advice, they prob dont even care or want to know if in few years your not gonna be able to have wood or able to satisfy your partner in bedroom. At the end of the day, its YOU who should think and evaluate the goods and cons. Obviously taking roid at this age would make you look massive and all the girls will love you but this will be until your passed 25 and then you be worthless in every asspect, you even lose your self confidence, you lose your motivation, and more importantly, you lose your dick and no matter what the doctors tell you, viagra will be your best friend. We can go to the next page of this story and I tell you what happens when your 30 but briefly, your wife or girlfriend leave you because you dont act or talk like a real man with full confidence and decision making skills. Your life would be terrible and you either end up selling tickets at toll booth 7 days a week or working at kings cross.

Now come back and ask everyone here to give you advice in changing your life to what I just described for you. No one would do it. SO LISTEN, wait until your 26 and then do it if you have to.

PS, Ask advice on how to achieve the results your after with training and diet.