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03-24-2011, 08:39 AM #1New Member
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Newbie looking for help on first cycle
Hi everyone,
I am new to this forum and looking for some help with regards to a first cycle, and would appreciate any help I can get.
I have done weeks of research and would like to know what the ‘ideal’ first cycle, and PCT would be.
After all the reading, most people recommend that simple Test would be the best starter, but people I train with (relatively experienced users) are recommending Primo or Equipoise . I have slight male pattern baldness (receding hairline) as it runs in my family, and would definitely like to keep what’s left of my hair through this first cycle
Some of my background:
I have been training pretty religiously for the past 10 years, but gotten more serious in the past 4 years from the perspective that I have a good controlled diet, good training routines, and good cardio routines.
I weigh optimally around 78Kg’s (171lbs) with 15% - 17% BF. My overall physic is good, and have good definition all round.
My diet is as follows:
When gaining weight, I increase my meals to about 7 meals a day, similar to the following:
1) 07:00am - Oat and Whey meal bar (319kcal)
2) 08:00am - 66g oats with 180ml skim milk + one banana (+- 500kcal)
3) 09:30am - Meal replacement shake (350kcal)
4) 11:00am - Oat and Whey meal bar (319kcal)
5) 12:30pm - Sliced chicken breast (200g), potato, broccoli, carrots (+- 580kcal)
6) 15:00pm - Meal replacement shake (350kcal)
7) 17:30pm - Pre-workout shake – one scoop Universal Animal Torrent (110kcal)
8) 19:00pm - Post-workout shake – one scoop Universal Animal Torrent (110kcal)
9) 20:00pm - Tuna salad (two tins) (260kcal)
Total around 3000kcal’s per day.
I usually eat this way for about 6 – 10 weeks, and gain between 3 – 5 kilograms, some of which is fat (usually go up to about 20 - 22% BF).
For cutting, I reduce my meals to around 4 meals a day, cutting out the meal replacements and meal bars. So everything above except 1, 3, 4, 6.
Usually I will loose some weight, and drop back down around 80Kg’s (176lbs) with 15% - 17% BF.
I take a whole host of other supplements, at the moment I am taking the Universal Animal range, which includes the Pak, Pump, Nitro (PW), and sometimes the Test & M-Stak. This is an expensive supplement stack, and don’t know if it is very good for my body long term.
The problem I face is that I believe I am now at my natural limit and need to do a cycle to break through and gain 3 – 5kg’s of lean muscle which I can maintain, and keep my BF down.
I have been considering the Testosterone -Cypionate for 14 weeks @ 400mg once a week.
Can anyone advise what else I should be considering while on this course? For example, suggested medications to treat side effects (if necessary), and most importantly the PCT. If there is a book that will give me all this information that would be fine, but I believe people with similar experience would be a good starting point.
Many thanks for anyone who can help, it is much appreciated.
Drew
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03-24-2011, 09:28 AM #2Member
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I can’t find height or age?
Your diet needs some work
Unless you are 4 foot tall your genetic limitation will certainly carry past 170 pounds.
Get back to us with height and age.
Good luck
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03-24-2011, 09:32 AM #3Master Pai Mei of the White Lotus Clan
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03-24-2011, 09:35 AM #4
seems to me you need more whole foods in your diet instead of getting the majority of your protein from shakes, for starters
but as magic said, 500 test will be more than enough. The sides are minimal for most and easily controlled for others given you have the proper anti-e's and something that can prevent hairloss (which could be an issue regardless of the AS given your genetically prone)
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03-24-2011, 09:35 AM #5
Good catch Kelevra, I didn't notice.
Please post that info for more advice.Master Pai Mei of the White Lotus Clan
My motto: SAFETY & RESPECT (for drugs and others).
I AM NOT A SOURCE, I DO NOT GIVE OUT SOURCES, OR PROVIDE SOURCE CHECKS.
I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY UGL's OR ANY ORGANIZATION DEALING WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF ILLEGAL NARCOTICS/SUBSTANCES!
Difference between Drugs & Poisons
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=317700
Half-lives explained
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...inal+half+life
DNP like Chemotherapy, can be a useful poison, but both are still POISONS
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306144
BE CAREFUL!
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03-24-2011, 09:46 AM #6New Member
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Hey Kelevra,
Sorry it is in my profile, height 5'10 and age 31.
Thanks.
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