Dropping cycle week 5 due to GYNO issues - where do i go from here?

[tintinnabulatio]

Well unfortunately, this time it wasn't the hypochondriac and the paranoid in me speaking.

After This Thread i went straight to the endo for a consult: her oppinion, indeed i have some suspect masses in my chest, but weirdly enough, not around the nipple but in the area i pointed in this pic:


So i got diagnosed as "Suspect gynecomastia" and she reffered me to have blood work done and mammary echo.
I did not tell her about AAS because i'm 100% sure i'm dropping the cycle. The rest of tests are unnecesarry because we all know what caused this.

I don't want to take the risk. All i want is those lumps to be gone.

This is my 5th week of Test-E 400mg , i only started Adex this week. Took 0.25mg tuesday and 0.25mg today. I also took 250ui HCG Tuesday.

Question is , how do i go from here? My last shot was Monday. How much Adex or Nolva should i take until i start PCT ?
Should i up the Adex dose? I also have Nolva on hand.

Please help

[tintinnabulatio]

Interesting enough, the lumps are not under the nipple. But the doc insisted that there isn't anything else it could be... or very small chances it could be something else then mammary tissue.

However, i know some of you will instruct me to use AI/SERM and go on with the cycle... trust me , i invested A LOT of money, i lost a lot of money (one batch of shitty test which i trew out) .. not to mention the hopes and plans i had for me with this cycle... but i am a bit paranoid and the rest of the 5 weeks would be a nightmare for me. Also i'm positive my worries would stop me from concentrating on more important stuff - finishing college in 2 months. So this is it , you win some, you lose some, this is life


Regarding SERMs/AI/PCT
Should i start tamox now at 20mg , and continue with this into PCT? (when i start PCT i will add Clomid)
How much Adex should i use , and for how long? Since my last test. shot was Monday.

[Swifto]

Tamox 20mg/ED until sides subside, up the Adex to 0.5mg/ED.

You can also run the Tamox as a PCT, without the Adex after the sides have gone and the Test has cleared your system.

[tintinnabulatio]

Thanks Swifto for taking a look in here, will do so!

[Flier]

Aren´t you overreacting a bit by ending your cycle?

How about follow Swifto´s advise,and continue?

The results I´ve seen from other threads are, the Gyno sides disappear within days, when dealt with properly.

Doesen´t even sound like you have Gyno

At least give it a week, then make the decision.

[tintinnabulatio]

Aren´t you overreacting a bit by ending your cycle?

How about follow Swifto´s advise,and continue?

The results I´ve seen from other threads are, the Gyno sides disappear within days, when dealt with properly.

Doesen´t even sound like you have Gyno

At least give it a week, then make the decision.

If it was a regular case of gyno, with the itches and soreness, trust me i would continue. But i don't want to be the subject of a freak medical case, in a couple days without any symptomps i am full of lumps , a couple around the area from the pic, and a small one above the nipple. The speed in which this problems appeared out of no where is enough to keep me off AAS. More then that, first 3 weeks i ran around 250mg/ week, i upped the dose only week 4 and now all this.

[Flier]

Good enuff....your health, your decision.

Sounds really weird.
Would love for you to come back and let us know what the results of your tests show, and what the Endo´s conclusion is.

[ScotchGuard02]

I think it's better to err on the side of safety. Get this problem behind you first. Then you can figure out your next move.

[warren916]

adex and tamox dont run well together...look into it.

[tintinnabulatio]

adex and tamox dont run well together...look into it.

Where exactly should i look into this? Does the combination bring the estro too low or?

[Flier]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...mp-Cholesterol

U can order Aromasin from ar-r.com (Liq. Stane)

[hwy1378]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...mp-Cholesterol

U can order Aromasin from ar-r.com (Liq. Stane)

should that be run in any pct ? and ar-r Aromasin works

[cro]

it seems to me the only way to go is to run aromasin from the start.

[Flier]

should that be run in any pct ? and ar-r Aromasin works

Aromasin to be used throughout cycle, but not PCT.
Ar-r is good

[hwy1378]

Aromasin to be used throughout cycle, but not PCT.
Ar-r is good

thanks

[booze]

Let us know how you go with your endo mate.

[joejoe29]

[QUOTE=tintinnabulatio;5578635]Interesting enough, the lumps are not under the nipple. But the doc insisted that there isn't anything else it could be... or very small chances it could be something else then mammary tissue.

Not to freak you out but there are dozens of things it could be from fat deposits to breast cancer and your Dr. shouldn't have stated otherwise. The best thing for you to do is be honest with your doctor about how you believe this has happened so at least she can herself or refer you to someone who knows what to do for you. Some goog advice given by other members though.

[Undercover]

How come lots of people are scared to tell their doctors they use AAS? Doctors aren't supposed to be judgemental. If your doctor is, then he/she is a terrible one. You should be able to tell your doctor everything, tbh.

[poppz]

So using adex from beginning wouldn't be enough to stop gyno from starting? And if formed should one discontinue adex and jump to tamox?

[Flier]

So using adex from beginning wouldn't be enough to stop gyno from starting? And if formed should one discontinue adex and jump to tamox?

Nothing may be enough to stop Gyno, as we all are different, and Gyno may appear from high Prolactin levels as well as Estrogen.

But you go a long way in preventing by adding an AI in your cycle. Tamox is a great SERM to combat Gyno, and since Aromasin and Tamox has a great synergy, it makes sense to use Aromasin as the AI in your cycle, in case you have to add Tamox.

[east coast 13]

how about caber,can he use it as well (first timer 42)

[cro]

this can happen from caffine intake? are you taking an excess amount of caffine? has anything changed recently besides being on cycle? that does not sound like gyno..

[Flier]

how about caber,can he use it as well (first timer 42)

No.
Unless his prolactin levels are high.
Running a low dose caber throughout the cycle is a good idea to control prolactin when running Deca or Tren.