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    At 23 your to young to do anything. You seem to be doing great natural.

    But in my opinion, prohormones are the same as doing an oral only cycle..stupid

    A simple test cycle would be better for everything (liver, mood, libido).

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    U look really good!
    Uīre obviously doing something right with diet and WO.
    Forget about PH/AAS, and just keep doing what youīre doing.
    And forget about "this" summer....u have another 50 coming up, and for each one you gonna be looking better and better (at least for the next 20)
    I grew to 220lbs naturally by age 30, and I seemed to grow in spurts.
    Then....I did a PH and screwed myself up...my progress, my libido, my head (fog), got fat...etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by warren916 View Post
    At 23 your to young to do anything. You seem to be doing great natural.

    But in my opinion, prohormones are the same as doing an oral only cycle..stupid

    A simple test cycle would be better for everything (liver, mood, libido).
    No source for AAS, otherwise I would highly consider.
    From what I've read, some of the milder PHs (the ones I listed) aren't harsh at all and most seem to get decent results on them in 6 weeks or so. I would do a cycle of test before I ever did PHs like sdrol/mdrol, so I see what you're saying about orals only being stupid. And natural is only fun for so long, lol. Not really even looking to get massive, just looking to weigh around 175-180 while keeping bodyfat relatively low.

    Quote Originally Posted by First Timer 42 View Post
    U look really good!
    Uīre obviously doing something right with diet and WO.
    Forget about PH/AAS, and just keep doing what youīre doing.
    And forget about "this" summer....u have another 50 coming up, and for each one you gonna be looking better and better (at least for the next 20)
    I grew to 220lbs naturally by age 30, and I seemed to grow in spurts.
    Then....I did a PH and screwed myself up...my progress, my libido, my head (fog), got fat...etc
    Thanks man.. my diet always comes first.
    What PH did you do if you don't mind me asking?

    Really had my heart set on something to give me a edge this summer... now you guys are making me reconsider lol.

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    I waited until I was 30 to cycle and I am glad I did. I kind of wish I would have waited longer.
    If I were you I would reconsider and appreciate what I already have naturally. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xyle View Post
    No source for AAS, otherwise I would highly consider.
    From what I've read, some of the milder PHs (the ones I listed) aren't harsh at all and most seem to get decent results on them in 6 weeks or so. I would do a cycle of test before I ever did PHs like sdrol/mdrol, so I see what you're saying about orals only being stupid. And natural is only fun for so long, lol. Not really even looking to get massive, just looking to weigh around 175-180 while keeping bodyfat relatively low.



    Thanks man.. my diet always comes first.
    What PH did you do if you don't mind me asking?

    Really had my heart set on something to give me a edge this summer... now you guys are making me reconsider lol.
    I walked into my local GNC where I had been shopping for years.
    Maybe I asked for the latest thing...which I always did, canīt remember.
    Anyway, he gave me 1 or 2 bottles of, I think, Androdestione. Supposed to place a few drops under my tounge every day.
    Had no idea what I was taking. Think I got good gains, canīt remember.
    WHat I do remember is the "crash". Ofcourse no PCT. Libido/erection gone.....couldnīt figure out why. Then I had this fog in my head for about 2 years post.
    Never did BW

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    Quote Originally Posted by First Timer 42 View Post
    I walked into my local GNC where I had been shopping for years.
    Maybe I asked for the latest thing...which I always did, canīt remember.
    Anyway, he gave me 1 or 2 bottles of, I think, Androdestione. Supposed to place a few drops under my tounge every day.
    Had no idea what I was taking. Think I got good gains, canīt remember.
    WHat I do remember is the "crash". Ofcourse no PCT. Libido/erection gone.....couldnīt figure out why. Then I had this fog in my head for about 2 years post.
    Never did BW
    Same with me. Id pop andro like it was nothing at 18-20yo. I had no idea what pct was and wud pop when i could remeber to dose so my blood levels were unstable. 9 years later im diagnosed with hypogonadism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by First Timer 42 View Post
    I walked into my local GNC where I had been shopping for years.
    Maybe I asked for the latest thing...which I always did, canīt remember.
    Anyway, he gave me 1 or 2 bottles of, I think, Androdestione. Supposed to place a few drops under my tounge every day.
    Had no idea what I was taking. Think I got good gains, canīt remember.
    WHat I do remember is the "crash". Ofcourse no PCT. Libido/erection gone.....couldnīt figure out why. Then I had this fog in my head for about 2 years post.
    Never did BW
    Same with me. Id pop andro like it was nothing at 18-20yo. I had no idea what pct was and wud pop when i could remeber to dose so my blood levels were unstable. 9 years later im diagnosed with hypogonadism.

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    HDROL is crap

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOBfromfightclub View Post
    HDROL is crap
    Why? Recommend any other PH in its place then?

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    I'm 24 and did my fist cycle with Epistane a few months ago. While on it I gained a good amount of weight and looked really dry. Also it affected me mentally more than dbol or test prop has.

    I didn't have a proper pct lined up and lost a lot of the weight and didn't look that good when I stopped due to being really bloated.

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    @172 at 5'11", you have a long way to go bro, you should be atleast 25-35lbs heavier naturally before you take anything and also a few years older.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xyle View Post
    Why? Recommend any other PH in its place then?
    Xyle, you and the OP are too young for androgens. Case closed!

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