Milk Thistle and PCT for Test E only??

**mustang331** · 03-29-2011, 08:33 PM

Was wondering.. Doing just a Test cycle, how important is it to take Milk Thistle every day with it? Or do you think its not needed since its only a Test E. cycle?

Also whats up with the example for a Novice cycle on this site? I remember it used to be 400mg test E. each week for 8 weeks..with a Clomid cycle for PCT starting the third week after your last dose.

Now its up to 500mg of test E. each week and for 12 weeks instead of 8, and they took away the PCT on the bottom..

The other cycles, intermediate and advanced show the PCT.

Just curious about this.. did someone research that 8 weeks isn't long enough and PCT is not really needed with just a test cycle?

Thanks

**ochana25** · 03-29-2011, 08:57 PM

i personally always take milk thistle on a cycle or not

**Vullfromsc** · 03-29-2011, 09:00 PM

you do not need milk thistle at all for an injectable only cycle. when you involve oral steroids , milk thistle/liv 52 are optional if you think you will have liver problems

novice cycle:

1-10 test e/c 500mg/wk (250mg twice a week)
1-4 dbol 30mg/ED (split up evenly)

pct:

13-16 nolva 40/20/20/20
13-16 clomid or torem

start pct when half-life is up:
test cyp half-life - 12 days
test enth half-life - 10.5 days

**mustang331** · 03-30-2011, 07:15 AM

Thanks... Thats what I thought...

Nolva still the popular choice for Gyno alerts right? During the cycle that is..

Originally Posted by Vullfromsc

you do not need milk thistle at all for an injectable only cycle. when you involve oral steroids , milk thistle/liv 52 are optional if you think you will have liver problems

novice cycle:

1-10 test e/c 500mg/wk (250mg twice a week)
1-4 dbol 30mg/ED (split up evenly)

pct:

13-16 nolva 40/20/20/20
13-16 clomid or torem

start pct when half-life is up:
test cyp half-life - 12 days
test enth half-life - 10.5 days

**DFOSTER** · 03-30-2011, 07:30 AM

Oral are harsher on your liver than injectibles true but you are still going to want to run something to aide your liver whether it's milk thistle or liv52 or something along those lines and you definately want a solid pct nolva and clomid combined is common And yes nolva can be used to combat gyno