Liv 52 along with orals?

[ucf465]

I was wondering if liv 52 should be taken along with tbol or should it be used as liver PCT when done taking the orals?

I have read that if you take liv 52 during you wont get 100% of the compound (Tbol) but at the same time i wouldnt want to risk damaging my liver.

ucf

[dru23]

i am not sure ab tbol. i can tell you that with other orals such as dbol and winny and especially drol and other more liver toxics, you def take the liv52 during, as well as milk thistle and anything else that can help. i have taken methyltrienelone, considered oral tren. and i took livercare, liv52 and milk thistle, id rather err on the side of safe than dangerous.

[X83]

Turanabol and var are less toxic per mg than any other oral but high doses can still damage your liver.

[parksy]

is liv 52 available OTC in canada... also I heard milk thistle as support for helping reduce aas liver toxicity was a bodybuilder myth, is this true or not?

[X83]

Liv52 works better than milk thistle and you can find it almost anywhere.

[Bonaparte]

Yes, take it alongside the oral.

[cro]

ive read this with h drol as well not to take while on cycle, to take after .sounds bunk..

[ucf465]

i am not sure ab tbol. i can tell you that with other orals such as dbol and winny and especially drol and other more liver toxics, you def take the liv52 during, as well as milk thistle and anything else that can help. i have taken methyltrienelone, considered oral tren. and i took livercare, liv52 and milk thistle, id rather err on the side of safe than dangerous.

I read that taking milk thistle along side an oral is more toxic than just an oral because of the way it works, and to use as a liver cleanse after oral kick start. Is there any truth to this?

Btw thanks everyone for responding

ucf

[D7M]

I was wondering if liv 52 should be taken along with tbol or should it be used as liver PCT when done taking the orals?

I have read that if you take liv 52 during you wont get 100% of the compound (Tbol) but at the same time i wouldnt want to risk damaging my liver.

ucf

Honestly, the whole orals and liver toxicity thing is way over rated. I'm not advocating everyone take orals for 52 weeks straight, but at moderate doses and for a brief time (4-8 weeks), you will be fine unless you have some pre-existing condition.

I take liv-52 after I stop my orals.

[scotty51312]

Honestly, the whole orals and liver toxicity thing is way over rated. I'm not advocating everyone take orals for 52 weeks straight, but at moderate doses and for a brief time (4-8 weeks), you will be fine unless you have some pre-existing condition.

I take liv-52 after I stop my orals.

Exactly, why lessen the effectiveness of your orals while you're on them. I'd prefer to think of milk thistle, liv52, or UDCA as more of a PCT for your liver

[magic32]

I read that taking milk thistle along side an oral is more toxic than just an oral because of the way it works, and to use as a liver cleanse after oral kick start. Is there any truth to this?

Btw thanks everyone for responding

ucf

How can a natural liver cleanser be harsh on your liver, that's a like a natural skin moisturizer (say aloe) being harsh on your hands. No its not harsh.

Liv52 is combination of herbs most of which are renowned for their blood, liver, and kidney detoxifying (stronger than a cleanser) properties.

And Tbol is very mild, it won't cause liver damage at any amount, and really doesn't even warrant liver protection, but its never a bad idea. Although higher dosages of any oral (even mild ones) can alter liver values especially trys, LDL & HDL in negative ways, but even this is only temporary and will be restored to normalcy shortly after discontinuation with the short half-life compounds.

[ucf465]

Sorry it took me so long to get back to this, been busy with exams. Thanks to everyone for all of your helpful advise.

ucf

[dec11]

Sorry it took me so long to get back to this, been busy with exams. Thanks to everyone for all of your helpful advise.

ucf

what age are you? before you start taking anything

[SlimJoe]

No tablet works miracles

[meat&2veg]

I am taking T-Bol @ 50mg ED and I take 20mg in morning 10mg lunch and 20mg at dinner...Everytime I take my T-Bol I take 2 Liv52's.
I have good gains and no liver problems that I can see or feel.

Take care of your liver is best bet when running any oral.

[Far from massive]

Before during and after...its cheap and there are no downsides other than the money it costs so if you are running orals or anything else that puts a strain on your liver the addition of Liv52 is a good thing.

PS I contracted HepC back in the early 80s and have been taking Liv52 ( actually LiverCare since this is the name its sold under in the US) daily for the past 6 months. Prior to that I had liver pain from swelling of the liver pretty constantly and any time I ate any dairy or a lot of protein the pain would be pretty substantial. For the past 3 months I have been completly pain free and the swelling is non existant, this is eating 300+ gms of protein a day and even when I loose it and have a cheat meal of 1 pint of pistachio ice cream there is still no pain. Wooowee!!!

[Far from massive]

Exactly, why lessen the effectiveness of your orals while you're on them. I'd prefer to think of milk thistle, liv52, or UDCA as more of a PCT for your liver

I just noticed this reply, have you read that the addition of Liv52 will reduce the blood concentration of orals? I can see where you are coming from, but I could just as easily see Liv52 not having any significant effect on blood levels yet providing valuable protection to the liver while on cycle.

[Ashop]

I was wondering if liv 52 should be taken along with tbol or should it be used as liver PCT when done taking the orals?

I have read that if you take liv 52 during you wont get 100% of the compound (Tbol) but at the same time i wouldnt want to risk damaging my liver.

ucf

I think you should take it daily with your cycle. It will not inhibit your gains.