Course plan

**spaceman1** · 04-02-2011, 01:26 PM

I did a course of sust 350 last year. I did it over 5 weeks because I was going through an immigration process. Didn't want to have to buy pct or whatever here, so I kept it short.

Here's what I had-

x2 10ml sust 350, 3 vials of hcg (cant remember the volume. I think 1ml)

4ml sust a week (2ml twice a week)
0.3ml hcg once a week
5 week course
4 days after the last sust injection i took - as recommended - somthing like half of the second vial of hcg, then a week after that i had a whole vial (i think 1ml)

I was very pleased with my gains, but fell victim to gyno. Which was a real pain to deal with.

Anyway.....

I'm going to be buying sust 250 from an online site which I've researched to a certain extent, and apparently they're to be trusted. The sust brand is Organon. So that means it's legit, right?

The last course I did - as many of you have probably noticed - is not a good one. I was instructed to do exactly as I did. I now know that it wasn't the proper way to do it, after getting the gyno.

So I want to do it right this time!

If it's not too much trouble. Maybe someone could give me a good course plan. I'm happy with my workout routine, my diet (even though I'm not eating well atm. I would obviously make sure to when I'm juicing).

All I need to know is-

How much should I take, and when?
What PCT should I be using?
What's the difference between sust 250, and sust 350?

Like I say, I liked my gains. I was happy with the entire course, all apart from the gyno. I would like to do longer than 5 weeks this time.

**spaceman1** · 04-02-2011, 02:52 PM

Anyone out there?

**scotty51312** · 04-02-2011, 03:33 PM

the difference is one is 250mg per ML and the other is 350 per ML
Go to the PCT forum and read the stickies there on PCT for answers on that
As for your other questions post up some stats and we'll help you out
Age?
height?
weight?
bodyfat?
years training?
cycle experience?

**cro** · 04-02-2011, 04:45 PM

dont ever skip buying pct gear because you cant afford it. DONT BUY ANYGEAR.your not mentally ready.

**spaceman1** · 04-02-2011, 08:31 PM

I'm not mentally ready?.... Give reasons.

22 Years old
170lb
6.4
Not sure about body fat. I've got a bit of a gut coming on. I've always had a jelly ass as well. I'm a skinny guy.
2 years training
I did a course of dbol in summer 09. course of sust 350 last summer.

Like I say, I was happy with my last course, but want to go a bit longer.

**Jawcep** · 04-02-2011, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by cro

dont ever skip buying pct gear because you cant afford it.

So so true. DO NOT START A cycle until you have absolutely everything.

**spaceman1** · 04-02-2011, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Jawcep

So so true. DO NOT START A cycle until you have absolutely everything.

Where are you getting this from? I'm not skipping anything.

**scotty51312** · 04-02-2011, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by spaceman1

I'm not mentally ready?.... Give reasons.

22 Years old You're body's endochrine system hasn't fully matured and won't untill about age 25. You risk damaging your body permanantly by doing steroids now
170lb
6.4 if you're 6'4" and 170lbs you don't need steroids you need some freakin food. Guarantee you're not eating right. U should make 220lbs easily without AAS
Not sure about body fat. I've got a bit of a gut coming on. I've always had a jelly ass as well. I'm a skinny guy.
2 years training
I did a course of dbol in summer 09. course of sust 350 last summer. neither of these cycles sound like properly planned or excecuted cycles to me.

Like I say, I was happy with my last course, but want to go a bit longer.

5 weeks of sust is barely enough to do anything other than waste tme. You need to stop what you're doing and take some time in our diet section and learn how to eat and spend the next 3 years or so reading and researching about AAS if you want to take them

**spaceman1** · 04-02-2011, 09:54 PM

I'm not asking for your permission. I kept a stone from that 5 week course, thanks.

**spaceman1** · 04-03-2011, 02:42 PM

Anyone? Just need to know what PCT I need. I've looked in the PCT section, but it's just people asking questions about their balls. I just need a good plan from an experienced user. I don't have a problem with diet. That's my business.

It would be perfect if someone would give me a good plan for a sust only course. Say 8 weeks.

**songdog** · 04-03-2011, 03:26 PM

You are to young bro.We dont advise anyone under the age of 24 to cycle.All you need is a good diet.

**spaceman1** · 04-03-2011, 03:36 PM

bollocks

**spaceman1** · 04-03-2011, 03:41 PM

I'm doing it. All I need is PCT advice.

**scotty51312** · 04-03-2011, 04:40 PM

With an attitude like that no one will give you the advice you want. It would actually be irresponsible to do so. But if you insist the answers you need can be found on this board with a simple use of the search button

**spaceman1** · 04-03-2011, 04:47 PM

Ye I used the search, but couldn't find anything. I don't have an attitude. I'm simply telling you that I don't want your advice on whether to do it or not. I just want advice on what PCT to use.

I'm doing it no matter what. So if you are willing to help, then help. I appreciate the concern, and advice. I understand that it isn't the best thing for my body. But never the less, I'm doing it.

**higgy** · 04-03-2011, 05:34 PM

Then do everything on ur own. Ur the big shot juicer, why u need our help?

**spaceman1** · 04-03-2011, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by bighigg337

Then do everything on ur own. Ur the big shot juicer, why u need our help?

Where did I even allude to being a big shot juicer? I'm asking you to point out where you're getting this from in what I have said. Otherwise, shut up.

**higgy** · 04-03-2011, 06:51 PM

Wow ur really a class act...talking shit and asking for help in the same breath.
Good luck. Peace

**spaceman1** · 04-03-2011, 07:07 PM

I haven't spoken a word of shit. I simply told an ignorant person - with nothing good to say so far - to shut up.

You came to the thread with no intention of helping. You just wanted to get your say in. You accuse me of thinking I'm a big shot juicer. When I've said nothing to give you that idea.

Sorry if you think I'm talking shit. I'm just responding - how I believe to be - accordingly.

**minimonster** · 04-03-2011, 07:21 PM

sounds like u need to do ALOT more research

**spaceman1** · 04-03-2011, 07:24 PM

That's what I'm doing right now. I'm asking here. I'm going to do this course, eat shit loads, and then get blood work done. I just need help with the PCT. I've looked in the PCT section. But I can't find any threads or posts on a sust only cycle. Just help me out, please.