We recently ordered some gear for our next go around.. I'm running a tren /eq/test cycle and my buddy is running a deca /test cycle.... mine will be 400 each of tren and eq and 800 of test and his will be 800 of test and 600 of deca... both cycles ran for 12 weeks.... the problem is our guy forgot to send dbol that we were gonna kickstart our cycles with.. Does anyone have any experience running a cycle without a kickstarter like that? This is my 8th cycle and I've never done one without an oral to start so im curious as to how this will affect the cycle.. any thoughts? I also have a bunch of Winny and was thinking of throwing 4 or 5 weeks of that in at the beginning possibly... I know winny is typically thrown in later on in the cycle and ive used it before but again i'm just wondering if anyone has ever attempted to use it at the beginning, not sure if it would be a waste of time or not.