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    mmmuscle is offline New Member
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    advice plz :)

    hi guys im 26 bf between 13-15% 5'10" 84kg several yrs training
    ive been planning my first cycle 500mg of test e(or would test p be better) 1 shot a week for 12 weeks (this is the norm for a first cycle right) (critique the dose if its bad please)
    for pct should i use clomid or novledex?? im a bit confused on this as iv read about both
    also would hcg reduce ball shrinkage?? heard that it helps
    i knw it seems like i dont know jack but im just trying to get this right dont wanna do any damage through ignorance or stupidity any help and advice is great and any changes youd make il take on board

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    Test e 500mg a week 10-12 weeks
    clomid 100/75/50/50mg
    nolva 40/40/20/20mg
    start pct 2 weeks after last shot
    hcg can be ran, it's all personal preference

    what does ur diet look like?

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    diet is a fighters diet bro (minumum carbs during weight loss changed for mass building) lots of protein (in every meal) and fruit minimum six meals a day high water intake to keep the body hydrated this diet helped me loose weight now its revamped to gain mass rather than loose
    average day breakfast: egg
    snak:fruit
    lunch:something high in protein mayb chicken for carbs mayb rice/pasta
    snack nuts/fruit
    dinner again high protein steak sum carbs maybe a few spuds
    snak: nuts maybe some fruit

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    There are a hell of a lot of things to fine tune before you use juice, so if you're deadset on it then read around and get every aspect in check. There is a ton of great info on this board.
    By the way, welcome.

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    cheers bro and thanks for the advice il deffinetly read around
    and yeah my diet is gettin reworked now that was the old 1 the new 1 hasnt been finalised yet need last ;ittle tweaks b4 i commit to it

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    I'm preparing for a cycle similar to yours. Mine is
    TestE 250 ONLY 12weeks
    1cc/3&1/2days (500mg/week)
    HCG
    PCT
    Nolva ONLY 2 weeks after last pin
    40/40,20,20

    My diet isn't that strict tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmmuscle View Post
    diet is a fighters diet bro (minumum carbs during weight loss changed for mass building) lots of protein (in every meal) and fruit minimum six meals a day high water intake to keep the body hydrated this diet helped me loose weight now its revamped to gain mass rather than loose
    average day breakfast: egg
    snak:fruit
    lunch:something high in protein mayb chicken for carbs mayb rice/pasta
    snack nuts/fruit
    dinner again high protein steak sum carbs maybe a few spuds
    snak: nuts maybe some fruit
    Thats not a good diet. Nuts are a good FAT source, not protein. Check the label. You have carbs in every meal and the morning snack just carbs, guess this is the mass gaining part. You need better sources included along with the fruit. Oats in the morning, potatoes.
    Here is a good starting point for diet in order to gain and keep fat gain minimal: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s-kind-of-diet...
    Quote Originally Posted by 27300man View Post
    I'm preparing for a cycle similar to yours. Mine is
    TestE 250 ONLY 12weeks
    1cc/3&1/2days (500mg/week)
    HCG
    PCT
    Nolva ONLY 2 weeks after last pin
    40/40,20,20

    My diet isn't that strict tho
    That is a poor diet and if you diet isn't as strict as a poor diet then realize your gains of 10lbs+ on cycle will be more water weight that'll be stripped away along with the small amount of muscle you

    may gained.


    You guys need to completely reevalute your diets and training.

    How do you think the body grows? What does it expend for energy, steroids or food?

    What happens when you put a surplus of calories in your body?

    Food is what makes the gains quality and stick once PCT begins.

    I encourage you all to get it in order way before you start juicing. Cause if you

    can't add and subtract these simple things (diet/training) how do you expect to

    do the advance things successfully.

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    Agree Reed... 10000X....

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    Good answer Reed helpful as always.

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