ok Im on my first month of HGH about day 19... 2.5 iu at 3-5am but slowly working my way up to 3.5 iu and planning 6-8 months. Im also on AAS, 500 Test Cyp 400 Deca week 7. I just read the other day a Thread that marcus posted from a good source about how we would be waisting half our money if we were not taking T4 with it and T3 was not the answer. I read the thread twice and I have a medical back round but Im still confused and quess it might take a while for me to get the reason for it. It was a great read and very important. However the thread was old and I was wondering if anybody had great results with it and do we know the long and short term effects on our thyroid.... that any of our vets may have had ? I do see that they sell T3 and T4 together.. Can Anybody help..