proviron and nolva for estro cntrl during cycle

[freak1]

hey guys whts ur thoughts on using the combo of nolva and proviron for estro n gyno cntrl during cycle .ive heard a bit about this and knw some guys who swear by it.the idea is tht the nolva will attach to the gyno related estro (which is my main concern and im sure most other guys) and and tht the proviron will compete wit some of the rest of the estro floating around and also increrase avail test @ the same time .also the nolva is shown to have positve impact on cholesterol levels as well and proviron helps libido(which dex and aromasin cn kill)

[gr8gear]

what are your stats & cycle?

Reason being, if you are running a compound like masteron /primo, then you can nix the proviron . typically i do not like using nolva during a cycle because i want my body to be very accepting to the compound during pct. I have run Letro during cycle to prevent estrogen sides, such as gyno & water retention. Just my $.02.

[Ashop]

hey guys whts ur thoughts on using the combo of nolva and proviron for estro n gyno cntrl during cycle .ive heard a bit about this and knw some guys who swear by it.the idea is tht the nolva will attach to the gyno related estro (which is my main concern and im sure most other guys) and and tht the proviron will compete wit some of the rest of the estro floating around and also increrase avail test @ the same time .also the nolva is shown to have positve impact on cholesterol levels as well and proviron helps libido(which dex and aromasin cn kill)

Its a very good combination. Used to be very popular before the AI's came around.

[scorpion62]

You would only run nolva through a cycle if you had signs of gyne, better anti-estrogenic agents now exist ie Clomid and Nolvadex , . When these are used, there is no need for Proviron as an anti-estrogen.Are you think of adding Proviron to your cycle for you libido, Proviron has an androgenic effect that in many cases improves libido.However most anabolic steroids also have this same property. In a steroid cycle, adding Proviron accomplishes nothing further. Or in the case of anabolic steroids such as Deca which can adversely affect libido, Proviron provides no greater help against that than do various other anabolic steroids

[freak1]

thx 4 input guys.its my 1st cyle .i wanted to throw in proviron for libido puposes as well as competing wit some of the other estro floating around.i alos reAD tht throwing in a dht steroid like proviron adds some synergestic afftects .ive just heard so many horror stories about dex n armosain killing sex drive n i really dnt want tht.the nolva would just b used on signs of gyno.any advice is apprerciated.or maybe i cn use armoasin and thow in proviron as well for libiodo?

[scorpion62]

Please give all stats

Stats consist of:

Age
Height
Weight
Bf%
Cycle history
Years training

[freak1]

35 yr old
5'11
240
10% bf
no cycles
2 b honest 1 yr hrd training (iactually have really really good genetics thts why my pals call me a freak lol)
im not too good wit comps or id put a pic of me up

[scorpion62]

Freak for your first cycle Run Test E 8 to 12 weeks with Dbol at the start for 4 weeks and have Clomid and Nolvadex for your PCT, This thread by Swifto will help you with your PCT http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=hcg+on+cycle

Dbol at 40mg ED split this through the day so that its not as sever on the liver plus smaller doses taken multiple times per day would deliver better results and maximise use of the steroid .
Test E at 500mg 8-12 weeks

[freak1]

awesome thx bro.i think im just gonna use test e though.and i have clomid,npolva and hcg for pct as well.wht do u like to use for estro cntrl during cycle? i dnt wanna get too bloated but i knw its good to have some estro for health purposes ,libido etc.i was leaning twrds 12.5 mg armosin eod aft doin some more research.and do u think i should strt it right away or wait cpl wks to c how i react to the test 1st? thx ,man

[scorpion62]

I have never used anything through the cycle because I felt I didnt need it, After my cycle I used Clomid and Nolvadex If I was you I would run the test and see where it takes you go luck mate