Currently on test enanthate cycle... Want to add clen..

[Zdriverr]

Long time reader, just never posted because I learned alot just reading the educational threads.

Stats
5"11
200lbs
13% BF
25 years old
1 cycle of dbol/test for 10 weeks started august 2010

This is now my second cycle, started 3/1. 4 weeks of dbol to kick start and 400 mg of test/week.

I started this cycle at 184 and have gotten up to 199-202lbs. I'm happy with the amount of muscle but just really want to lean up soon before the cycle is over... I feel like the test stacked with either clen or eca stack will help retain muscle while burning fat.

My goal is to be about 185-190lbs 8-9% BF.

I was thinking of week 8 to begin either clen or eca stack and change my diet around similar to keto.

Is this a bad idea for my goal? Also what dosage for the clen because I have never taken it....

Thanks in advance for your help

[blastedlooger]

I'm not that experienced but I wouldn't do it. You're supposed to wait until your body has become accustomed to the new muscle before you cut. This is after PCT. I thought about cutting at the end of my cycle too but decided against it after doing some research. Cut with clen after PCT.

[D7M]

I personally think ECA is much more effective than clen.

Tighten up the diet, increase cardio, and yes the Test will help preserve muscle while dieting and doing cardio.

[magic32]

Long time reader, just never posted because I learned alot just reading the educational threads.
That's not good! The community needs you, post in the forums where you can increase the knowledge base (workout, supplement, diet, rehab, lab, etc.), or go to lounge and provide some stress relief, but we encourage you to participate.

Stats
5"11
200lbs
13% BF
25 years old
1 cycle of dbol/test for 10 weeks started august 2010

This is now my second cycle, started 3/1. 4 weeks of dbol to kick start and 400 mg of test/week.
Prop is better for cutting, but enth works. You should run it longer this time, at least 12 wks. You didn't cite your 1st cycle dosage, but 500 mg is more effective especially for a 2nd cycle.

I started this cycle at 184 and have gotten up to 199-202lbs. I'm happy with the amount of muscle but just really want to lean up soon before the cycle is over... I feel like the test stacked with either clen or eca stack will help retain muscle while burning fat.
Neither Clen nor ECA helps you retain muscle, but there are no muscle retention issues when you're on Test - you couldn't be more anabolic!

My goal is to be about 185-190lbs 8-9% BF.
I was thinking of week 8 to begin either clen or eca stack and change my diet around similar to keto.
The ketogenic diet has some serious shortcomings. Might I suggest not going full keto? Keep carbs in your diet with daily fruits and vegetables, and mix others in intermittently every X# of days, it's called carb cycling. These additions will keep your energy and glucose levels up, as well as help with regularity.

Is this a bad idea for my goal? Also what dosage for the clen because I have never taken it....
Start with 20 mcg on day one, then increase by the same amount daily to between 120-160 mcg. It can be run indefinitely, and there's no need to taper down. Be sure to read the Clen profile (virtually doubles as an Ephedra one), Clen is stronger per mg, but Eph is also very efffective and has milder sides.

Thanks in advance for your help

Your diet will be the key to ahceiving your goal, use your waistline as a barometer.

Best to you.

[magic32]

I personally think ECA is much more effective than clen.

Tighten up the diet, increase cardio, and yes the Test will help preserve muscle while dieting and doing cardio.

Short version.

Sorry D7, I was already writing him.