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    Some cycle questions (mainly pct related)

    Got a few questions im still a bit "iffy" about if anyone with a lot of experience can help out would be great...

    1) Running an AI during cycle is most worth it to "limit" the estro related sides, so would adex or arom be the best bet?

    2) HCG dosing during cycle? run it eod? ew? shots of 300iu? 500iu? which is most optimal (cycle will be 500mg test e).

    3) For pct I've seen a number of strategies what really is best, pretty hard to say what is and what isn't as everyone is different and everyone will recover and respond slightly different.

    Nolva 40/40/20/20/20
    Clomid 100/100/50/50 Also seen clomid ran at 100 for just one week?

    4) Nolvadex or torm?

    5) Worth adding in arom AI into pct to help kill off EXCESS estro and prevent a rebound of hormones, such as acne related side effects?

    Time and time again I've seen huge acne rebounds, mainly in PCT, obviously down to the hormone imbalance... I've seen it in quite a few friends... so some blame it on the clomid, some blame it on the gear, some excess estrogen etc. But really whats the best way to avoid the acne in pct and losing gains for that matter? I know it's getting the test up as fast as possible and leveling out the estro but really the most efficient way at doing that at preventing the acne? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottish-Muscle View Post
    Got a few questions im still a bit "iffy" about if anyone with a lot of experience can help out would be great...

    1) Running an AI during cycle is most worth it to "limit" the estro related sides, so would adex or arom be the best bet?
    I run adex .25mg ed. It really is keeping the bloat down to a minimum.

    2) HCG dosing during cycle? run it eod? ew? shots of 300iu? 500iu? which is most optimal (cycle will be 500mg test e).
    250iu twice a week

    3) For pct I've seen a number of strategies what really is best, pretty hard to say what is and what isn't as everyone is different and everyone will recover and respond slightly different.

    Nolva 40/40/20/20/20
    Clomid 100/100/50/50 Also seen clomid ran at 100 for just one week?
    If you've run a pretty light cycle like anavar 40/20/20/20 & 100/50/50/50 is enough. If you've run hard cycle like Test/Tren/Deca for 12weeks then 40/40/20/20 & 100/100/50/50 would probably be better.

    4) Nolvadex or torm?
    I like Nolva over torm

    5) Worth adding in arom AI into pct to help kill off EXCESS estro and prevent a rebound of hormones, such as acne related side effects?
    I've run adex through the entire cycle to lower aromitization of the Test. I didn't get much acne on this cycle at all. Just a few here and there.

    Time and time again I've seen huge acne rebounds, mainly in PCT, obviously down to the hormone imbalance... I've seen it in quite a few friends... so some blame it on the clomid, some blame it on the gear, some excess estrogen etc. But really whats the best way to avoid the acne in pct and losing gains for that matter? I know it's getting the test up as fast as possible and leveling out the estro but really the most efficient way at doing that at preventing the acne? Thanks
    I get acne during PCT also. I've run adex throughout my cycle so I'm curious to see how the PCT/acne will come out this time.

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    Hey bro this was taken from swfitos pct thread some good info there.

    1. PH/Designer Steroid PCT

    wk 1-4 Tamox 20mg/ED

    OR

    wk 1-4 Clomid 25mg/ED (50mg/ED week 1)


    2. Test Enan/Prop Cycle Lasting 6-14 Weeks

    wk 1-6 Tamox 20mg/ED
    wk 1-6 Tore 60mg/ED (120mg/ED first 14 days) OR Clomid 25mg/ED (50-100mg/ED first 7-14 days)
    *HCG 250ius 2-3 times/wk (on cycle)
    *Aromasin 10mg/EOD (on cycle)



    3. Aggressive PCT (shutdown for 16-52+ weeks)

    wk 1-8 Tamox 20mg/ED (40mg/ED first 7 days)
    wk 1-8 Tore 60mg/ED (120mg/ED first 14 days, 100mg/ED next 7 days)
    *HCG 250ius 2-3 times/wk (on cycle, every 8-10 weeks take a 2-3 week break [E2/PgR])
    *HCG should also be ramped to 500ius 14-21 days from PCT
    *Aromasin 10mg/EOD (on cycle)

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    ^^ Dam good post. Will be referencing in the future.

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    Cheers for the replies. Seems adex or arom is a 50/50, some prefer one over the other... Both do the same job essentially.
    I've got the hcg figured now. And the rebound of hormones as it seems can be controlled to a certain extent by keeping blood levels stable for one during cycle and keeping estrogen from getting out of hand... But I've also read people are using to much serms that 20mg of nolva is fine after a cycle of test @ 500, and clomid 50mg is fine. Maybe get the best of both, first week 40mg nolv/100mg clomid then chop it down for the rest of the weeks to 20mg nolv/50mg clomid?

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