My first cycle! Need help!!

Hey everyone,
I just started taking my first cycle and would like to know some things. I'm injecting deca and test and taking dbol pills. I was going to do 20cc of deca and 20cc of test and about 6 weeks of dbol. I was wondering if there's anything else I should take? My buddy gave me what I think he said was hcg? He said it keeps your natural hormones up? I had another buddy tell me I should take clomid and some other things but I want more opinions. If you were doing the cycle I'm doing what would you take during and what would you take post cycle? Is all that post cycle stuff really necessary? Also where do I get the post cycle stuff? Also how many cc a week of each of my roids should i be injecting? Oh one final question my friend is going to take tren. What should he take with it and any suggestions on a good roid to stack with it? Thanks I know it's alot of questions but everyone has diferent opinions and I want to make sure I'm doing this properly.

So much wrong i don't know where to begin, so lets start with your stats:
age
weight
height
bf%
yrs training
planned pct
goals for this cycle

25 years old 6 feet tall 180 pounds. Training a year plateuad a while ago. I'd like to reach 210 or 215 but if I was 200 I wouldn't be crying about it that's for sure. Bf% not sure I guess I'm fairly lean though. Bit of love handles but not really. From training without the roids I cut/replaced a fair bit of fat with muscle.

Trained for a year then plateued?? Serious? Sounds like you need to get your diet in check.

If you do this cycle without proper dieting, your gonna lose everything you gain.

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Originally Posted by Fineline

Hey everyone, I just started taking my first cycle and would like to know some things.

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wow, just WOW... seriously?

hey guys, I just jumped out of an airplane, how would you recommend I land? I didnt bother to ask that before I started

Ok well I shouldn't say I plateaud. I'm still making gains but I want to make better gains hence the roids. I am also working on my diet with the help of people. To that other buddy the reason I've posted this is because every friend that has written up a plan for me had a diferent one. I picked one that I'm fallowing but is he right? How the **** should I know so I'm looking for outside opinions. If your not going to contribute in a positive way and give me your opinion or answer my questions then **** off. I trust my buddy but I want more opinions. I want to see what other people think. I'm sorry if you have a problem with that but really don't care that you do.

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Originally Posted by Fineline

I was going to do 20cc of deca and 20cc of test and about 6 weeks of dbol.
what dose of each and for how long?

I was wondering if there's anything else I should take?
give us an example, you seemed confident enough to inject foreign chemicals into your body, you should know this part

My buddy gave me what I think he said was hcg?He said it keeps your natural hormones up?
so you were just given more stuff to take on top of what you are taking, and didnt actually research what it does?

I had another buddy tell me I should take clomid and some other things but I want more opinions.
when did he tell you that you should take it and at what dose? Or did just taking some random amount sound like a good idea

If you were doing the cycle I'm doing what would you take during and what would you take post cycle? Is all that post cycle stuff really necessary?
the answer to this is in the stickies in the Q&A section

Also where do I get the post cycle stuff?
PCT is how you return to normal levels quickly after cycle so you dont lose all your gains, is this the right time to be doing this? Click the banner on the top right corner of the screen

Also how many cc a week of each of my roids should i be injecting?
wow, really?

Oh one final question my friend is going to take tren. What should he take with it and any suggestions on a good roid to stack with it?
is this his first cycle too? Tren is a very serious and dangerous compound, not a toy for experiementation... ask him if he has done as much research as you have cause you both are in for a case of limp dick.
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Originally Posted by Fineline

If your not going to contribute in a positive way and give me your opinion or answer my questions then **** off. I trust my buddy but I want more opinions.

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when you do some simple research in the many forums that educated users have spent a ton of time writing up so people dont get hurt while using AAS, you will see that your friend is not someone with enough knowledge to be trusted.

The reason you will see some hostility towards yourself is that no one can understand why so many peope are willing to inject themselves with dangerous chemicals on the hunch that the person who gave them the advice was actually knowledgable

Not to be a d**k, but I totally agree that you should not be injecting steroids into your body if you are that uneducated in the field.

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Originally Posted by Fineline

Ok well I shouldn't say I plateaud. I'm still making gains but I want to make better gains hence the roids. I am also working on my diet with the help of people. To that other buddy the reason I've posted this is because every friend that has written up a plan for me had a diferent one. I picked one that I'm fallowing but is he right? How the **** should I know so I'm looking for outside opinions. If your not going to contribute in a positive way and give me your opinion or answer my questions then **** off. I trust my buddy but I want more opinions. I want to see what other people think. I'm sorry if you have a problem with that but really don't care that you do.

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edit, no flamming please

1 Year of training :D...LOL..... Or 1 month of training.....I think may be 3 months because edit, no flamming like you cant train more that that

You should stop taking steroids before you do yourself damage, no point in arguing the point your the one who came on here for advice.

You should stop taking steroids because you have no idea what your doing or taking, you also havent been training long enough.

Remember your the one who came here for advice, you got the advice now be educated enough to listen to it and stop what your doing and go into pct.

Agreed^^

The best thing you could do is throw all that gear away, study up on nutrition, get your diet in check & train hard. Get some natural gains on you & if in 5 years you still want to run a cycle, then maybe by then you'll be ready. But ultimately it's your life & your body. So good luck.

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Originally Posted by Knockout_Power

wow, just WOW... seriously?

hey guys, I just jumped out of an airplane, how would you recommend I land? I didnt bother to ask that before I started

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my thoughts exactly

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Originally Posted by Blade15

1 Year of training :D...LOL..... Or 1 month of training.....I think may be 3 months because edit, no flamming like you cant train more that that

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Sorry for that post... I was too angry...Sorry bros..

Ok the reason I wanted to do it is because I have quite a few friends that have done it with success. I went to one buddy and he wrote up a plan for me. It's a plan that worked for him and the people that got him into it. That being said I've gone to other friends and there opinions were all similar in ways but diferent in some too. I should of posted the plan right away instead of bringing it up the way I did. Yes I agree that maybe ibshould research it more myself but as I stated I have friends that have done it quite successfully so I saw no reason why not to take there advice but I wanted more advice. Every friend I go to has a diferent opinion on how many cc a week I should shoot and how often. One friend told me I should take the hcg throughout my cycle another said just take it post cycle. They both got the same end result but I want more opinions on what they told me. I'm going to post the plan. If it is completely ****ed please tell me but if is a good looking plan also tell me. Anything to add or subtract throw it out there. Ok here we go lol.

Test 1cc twice a week for 15 weeks
Deca 1cc twice a week for 13 weeks
Dbol 40mg a day for 6 weeks

Dostinex .5 mg twice a week for 19 weeks (control gyno)
Arimidex 20mg a day 15 weeks (keep estrogen in check)

Post cycle:
60mg for 3 days
40mg for 3 days
20mg for 3 weeks
Hcg 500 iu every day for 3 weeks

I also have friends that have done no post cycle and still had success. I have friends that have shot less a week with success and more a week with success. The end result seems to more less be the same but if I do keep doing it ibwant to do it safely and the most proper way I can. Any thoughts on this plan?

Sorry thay post cycle was clomid. Did not state that

This has to be a troll ? What kind of person does no research, takes steroids from a friend, and injects it. You should not be taking steroids, your diet is the problem, post it in the diet section and see how poorly you have been eating. You also probably are training incorrectly. Sometimes I question the educational system O_o.

You don't mix compounds on a first cycle, you take 1 compound only, which is Testosterone (with 3 esters to choose from). Secondly, you should have a PCT figured out BEFORE you start putting chemicals you don't even comprehend into your body. If your body reacts how do you expect to know which of your 3 compounds gives you the problem ?

Everyone here is giving you great advice, stop taking steroids, do your own independent research, and eat & train properly first, unless you don't mind taking a viagra with a tylenol every night you go clubbing to make sure you get a hard-on.

hmmm.......?

Man...he just dont listen...